Botetourt, John 1a 2a

Birth Name Botetourt, John
Gender male
Age at Death 60 years, 10 months, 24 days

Narrative

John de Botetourte, said to be son of King Edward I, 1st Lord Botetourte, admiral, governor of Famlingham Castle 1304, MP 1305-1324, d. 25 Nov 1324; m. 1285/92 Maud Fitz Thomas (or Fitz Otho, Otes, Otto), living 28 May 1329, daughter of Thomas Fitz Otes of Mendlesham, Suffolk, and Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp of Bedford. For evidence that John de Botetourte was an illegitimate son of King Edward I, see Hailes Abbey Chronicle. The family tree of Botetourte there given was considered in this case to be completely reliable by Mr. H.C. Richardson, the authority on this line, and agreed to by Sir Anthony Wagner, College of Arms. Though questioned by some, due to an apparent erasure in the parchment, the Librarian, whose care it resides, stated (and still does) that there are several other erasures and corrections, all apparently contemporary with the preparation of the original document and apparent corrections made at that time by the author which do not affect this identification. [Ancestral Roots]

# Note:
CP gives John's ancestry as "unknown".

# Note:

Kay Allen AG, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, cites a TAG article "The Parentage of John Botetourte (died 1324)", by F. N. Craig, July 1998: 145-153, which disproves the royal ancestry and gives a different one.

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 122a-31, 216-29

Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
Page: G. Edward Allen, 9 Sep 1998

Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
Page: 122a-31

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John de Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt held the office of Governor of St. Briavel Castle in 1291. He held the office of Admiral of the Northern Seas between 1294 and 1297. He was created First Lord Botetourt on 13 July 1305. He held the office of Governor of Framlingham Castle in 1314. He held the office of Admiral of the Northern Seas in 1315. He fought in the Battle of Boroughbridge on 16 March 1322 on the side of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster's rebels. On 8 October 1322 he was fined 1000 pounds and pardoned.

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1264 Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England   3
Death 1324-11-25 St. Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England   3

Age: 60y

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Botetourte, Guy12391316
Mother , Ada
         Botetourt, John 1264 1324-11-25

Source References

  1. Holly Forrest Tamer: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stolp&id=I20105 @ RootsWeb Stolp Line
      • Source text:

        # ID: I20105
        # Name: @*John Botetourt
        # Title: Baron
        # Sex: M
        # Birth: ABT 1264 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England
        # Death: 25 NOV 1324 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
        # Note:

        John de Botetourte, said to be son of King Edward I, 1st Lord Botetourte, admiral, governor of Famlingham Castle 1304, MP 1305-1324, d. 25 Nov 1324; m. 1285/92 Maud Fitz Thomas (or Fitz Otho, Otes, Otto), living 28 May 1329, daughter of Thomas
        Fitz Otes of Mendlesham, Suffolk, and Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp of Bedford. For evidence that John de Botetourte was an illegitimate son of King Edward I, see Hailes Abbey Chronicle. The family tree of Botetourte
        there given was considered in this case to be completely reliable by Mr. H.C. Richardson, the authority on this line, and agreed to by Sir Anthony Wagner, College of Arms. Though questioned by some, due to an apparent erasure in the parchment,
        the Librarian, whose care it resides, stated (and still does) that there are several other erasures and corrections, all apparently contemporary with the preparation of the original document and apparent corrections made at that time by the
        author which do not affect this identification. [Ancestral Roots]

        # Note:
        # Note: ------------------------
        # Note:
        # Note: CP gives John's ancestry as "unknown".
        # Note:
        # Note: Kay Allen AG, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, cites a TAG article "The Parentage of John Botetourte (died 1324)", by F. N. Craig, July 1998: 145-153, which disproves the royal ancestry and gives a different one.
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        # Note: Page: 122a-31, 216-29
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        # Note: Page: G. Edward Allen, 9 Sep 1998
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        # Note: Page: 122a-31
        # Change Date: 20 OCT 2006

         

         

        Father: @*Guy Botetourte b: ABT 1239 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England

        Marriage 1 @*Maud FitzThomas b: ABT 1275 in Mendlesham, Hartismere, Suffolk, England

        Children

        1. Has Children @*Ada de Botetourt b: ABT 1295 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
        2. Has Children @Thomas de Botetourt b: ABT 1289

         

      • Citation:

        e-mail: holly_tamer@yahoo.com

  2. Michael Neuman: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clcaldwell&id=I003216 @ ralph d'aubigny.ged Caldwell and related families
      • Source text:

        # ID: I003216
        # Name: John De Botetourt , Lord Botetourt 1 2 3
        # Sex: M
        # Birth: ABT 1262 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England 1 2 3
        # Death: 25 NOV 1324 in St. Briavel Castle, St. Briavel, Gloucestershire, England
        # Note: John de Botetourt, 1st Lord Botetourt held the office of Governor of St. Briavel Castle in 1291. He held the office of Admiral of the Northern Seas between 1294 and 1297. He was created First Lord Botetourt on 13 July 1305. He held the office of Governor of Framlingham Castle in 1314. He held the office of Admiral of the Northern Seas in 1315. He fought in the Battle of Boroughbridge on 16 March 1322 on the side of Thomas, Earl of Lancaster's rebels. On 8 October 1322 he was fined 1000 pounds and pardoned.

         

         

        Father: Edward I 'Longshanks Plantagenet ,King of England b: 17 JUN 1239 in Westminster Palace, London, England
        Mother: Mistress

        Marriage 1 Maud fitzThomas de Mendlesham b: ABT 1265 in Mendlesham, Suffolk, England

        Children

        1. Has Children Thomas de Botetourt b: ABT 1294 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        2. Has Children Ada De Botetourt b: ABT 1295 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        3. Has No Children Robert de Botetourt b: ABT 1296 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        4. Has No Children Johanna de Botetourt b: ABT 1298 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        5. Has Children Sir Otho De Botetourt b: ABT 1300 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        6. Has Children Guy de Botetourt b: ABT 1302 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        7. Has Children Elizabeth de Botetourt b: ABT 1305 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England

         

        Sources:

        1. Title: CALDWELL.FTW
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: Mar 23, 2002
        2. Title: CALDWELL.GED
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: Mar 23, 2002
        3. Title: Margaret de Monthermer.ged
        Repository:
        Media: Other
        Text: Date of Import: 19 Feb 2005

         

         

      • Citation:

        e-mail: michaelneuman@earthlink.net

  3. Holly Forrest Tamer: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=stolp&id=I11512&style=TABLE @ RootsWeb Stolp Line