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Renaud de Nevers - Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
1. - Source text:
    1. RENAUD [II] de Nevers (-killed 5 Aug 1089). The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum names "Guillelmum et Renaldum" as the two sons of "Guillelmus…I", stating that Renaud possessed "Malliacum et Huben, duo nobilia castra"[92]. Although the wording of this passage suggests that Guillaume was the older son, the charter dated 4 Mar 1063 subscribed by "filii mei Raginaldi, Wilelmi, Rotberti" after "Wilelmus comes"[93] is more likely to show the correct order of birth of the brothers. He and his brothers are named in their father's 1083 charter[94]. The necrology of Auxerre cathedral records that "Rainaldus Willelmi comitis filius" was killed 5 Aug[95]. m firstly ([divorced]) [as her first husband,] [ITA Raymonde] de Forez, daughter of ARTAUD [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon & his wife Raymonde ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married firstly "filiam unicam [Artaldi] comitis Foratensis"[96]. [She married secondly (before 1085) Guigues Raymond d'Albon.] La Mure’s Histoire des Comtes de Forez states that "Guy-Raymond de Viennois" married "Ide-Raymonde de Forez, fille d’Artaud V…comte de Lyon et de Forez et d’Ide son épouse" and refers to the couple’s donation of "quelques terres situées au pays de Forez" to Cluny dated 1085, adding that the property in question was Ita’s dowry[97]. La Mure does not quote the charter in question nor provide a precise source reference, apart from referring to Guichenon’s Histoire de Savoie. This charter has not been found in the compilation of Cluny charters edited by Bernard and Bruel so presumably has since disappeared. It is not now therefore possible to state whether the charter explicitly confirms Ita Raymonde’s affiliation, although on this point there appears no reason to doubt that La Mure had the document available when he was writing as his description of its contents is precise. Two difficulties remain. The first difficulty is the date of the supposed Cluny charter, as at that time Guigues would still have been a child (his estimated birth date appears robust). The second difficulty is that Ita must have been considerably older than her second husband, assuming that she was the same daughter who had previously married Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers, as she had a daughter by her first marriage when Guigues Raymond must still have been an infant. One possibility is that Artaud [II] Comte de Forez et de Lyon had two daughters, despite the Origine et Historia asserting that Comte Renaud’s wife was "filiam unicam". It should be noted that no source has been identified which confirms that Guigues’s wife had previously been the wife of Comte Renaud. If there was only one daughter, she must have been divorced from her first husband, although no source has been found which confirms that this is correct. It should be noted that La Mure asserts that Renaud [II] Comte de Nevers was Ita’s second husband, married after the death of Guigues, but this appears difficult to reconcile with the chronology of the different families with which she was connected. m secondly [as her second husband,] AGNES de Baugency, [widow of ROBERT de Villeneuil,] daughter of LANCELIN [II] Seigneur de Baugency & his wife ---. The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" married secondly "Idam…filiam Lancelini de Balgentiaco"[98]. Her parentage is confirmed by a charter dated 1134 under which "Guillelmus comes Nivernensis, qui fuit natus de filia Lancelini de Baugenciaco" renounced practices which prejudiced the abbey of Saint-Michel[99]. Her first marriage is indicated by the charter dated Feb 1069 under which "Rotbertus de Villenolio gener Lancelini" donated property, naming "uxorem suam Agnes…et fratrem suum Willelmum", subscribed by "Lancelinus de Balgentiaco, Rodulfus filius eius"[100]. Comte Renaud [I] & his first wife had one child:
    a) ELISABETH de Nevers (before 1085-after [1120/39]). The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum records that the daughter of "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" and his first wife married "Miloni de Curteniaco"[101]. The Continuator of Aimon of Fleury records that “Milonem de Cortinaco” married “sorore comitis Nivernensis”[102]. "Milo de Curtiniaco" confirmed the donation by "Robertus Bonet" to the priory of Néronville of a grange "apud Lanci", with the consent of "Elisabeth uxor Milonis", by charter dated to [1110/16][103]. A charter dated to [1120/39] records donations for the foundation of the abbey of Notre-Dame des Echarlis, including a donation in the presence of "Milo de Curtiniaco et uxor eius Elisabeth et filii eorum Willelmus, Joscelinus, Rainaldus"[104]. m [as his second wife,] MILON Seigneur de Courtenay, son of JOSCELIN [I] Seigneur de Courtenay & his first wife Isabelle de Montlhéry (-after 1138, bur Fontaine-Jean).
    Comte Renaud [II] & his second wife had [three] children:
    b) GUILLAUME [III] de Nevers (-20 Aug 1148). The Origine et Historia Brevi Nivernensium Comitum names "Guillelmum" as the son of "Guillelmus…[filios]…Renaldum" and his second wife, commenting that he succeeded his grandfather[105]. The Libro de Libertate Monasterii Vizeliacensis names "Nivernensis comes Guilelmus filius Gulielmi Cartusiensis filii Renaldi de Hubenc, filii Gulielmi filii Renaldi filii Landrici"[106]. By charter dated to [1089/96], "Wilelmus comes filius Reinaldi comitis" confirmed a donation to the abbey of Molesme by "Willelmus comes Tornodorensis" in praise of "patre suo Wilelmo Nevernensis comite…fratris eius Raynaldi et matris eius", adding "illo majori Wilelmo avo suo"[107]. He succeeded his grandfather in 1100 as Comte de Nevers.
    - see below.
    c) ROBERT de Nevers (-after 1134). Vicomte de Ligny-le-Château. Albert of Aix records the arrival of "de civitate Ninive…vulgo…Navers, Willelmus", dated to late 1100 from the context, and his defeat with "Robertus…frater eiusdem comitis" at Heraclea by the Turks who robbed them of all their possessions, dated to Aug 1101[108]. m ---. The name of Robert's wife is not known. Robert & his wife had one child:
    i) GUILLAUME de Nevers (-1164 or after). The primary source which confirms his parentage has not been identified. Vicomte de Ligny-le-Château.
    d) [--- . m ---.] One child:
    i) HUGUES (-after 1144). "Hugo nepos comitis" witnessed the charter dated 1144 under which "Willermus Nivernensis comes" donated property to the Premonstrians at Notre-Dame, with the consent of "Ailleldis comitisse uxoris mee, filiorumque nostrorum, Willelmi et Rainaldi"[109]. As the known grandchildren of Guillaume II Comte de Nevers were too young in 1144 to have witnessed this charter, it is assumed that "nepos" is correctly translated as "nephew" in this charter, although no information has yet been found concerning the exact parentage of Hugues.
  - Citation:
    https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/burgdnevers.htm#RenaudIINeversM1IdaM2Agnes
Ermengarde De Nevers De Courtenay, "Find A Grave Index"
1. - Source text:
    Name Ermengarde De Nevers De Courtenay
    Birth Date 1073
    Event Type Burial
    Photograph Included N
  - Citation:
    "Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVL7-L3YR : 25 May 2022), Ermengarde De Nevers De Courtenay, ; Burial, , ; citing record ID 91350943, Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
    https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/91350943/ermengarde-de_courtenay
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Birth Name	de Nevers, Ermengarde
Gender	female
Age at Death	more than 54 years

de Nevers, Ermengarde 1 2 3a 4a

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Family of de Courtenay, Milo and de Nevers, Ermengarde

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de Nevers, Ermengarde^{1 2 3a 4a}