de Botetourt, Thomas 1a 2a

Birth Name de Botetourt, Thomas
Gender male
Age at Death 28 years

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1294 Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England   3
Death 1322 Halesowen, Shropshire, England   3

Age: 28y

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father Botetourt, John12641324-11-25
Mother de Mendlesham, Maud FitzThomas12651329-05-28
         de Botetourt, Thomas 1294 1322
    Sister     de Botetourt, Ada 1295 1349-05-00
    Sister     de Botetourt, Johanna 1298
    Brother     de Botetourt, Otho 1300
    Brother     de Botetourt, Guy 1302
    Sister     de Botetourt, Elizabeth 1305

Families

Family of de Botetourt, Thomas and de Somery, Joan
Unknown Partner de Somery, Joan ( * 1292 + 1327-01-18 )
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Botetourt, Maud1312
de Botetourt, John II13181385

Source References

  1. Holly Forrest Tamer: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stolp&id=I20105 @ RootsWeb Stolp Line
      • Source text:

        # ID: I20105
        # Name: @*John Botetourt
        # Title: Baron
        # Sex: M
        # Birth: ABT 1264 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England
        # Death: 25 NOV 1324 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
        # Note:

        John de Botetourte, said to be son of King Edward I, 1st Lord Botetourte, admiral, governor of Famlingham Castle 1304, MP 1305-1324, d. 25 Nov 1324; m. 1285/92 Maud Fitz Thomas (or Fitz Otho, Otes, Otto), living 28 May 1329, daughter of Thomas
        Fitz Otes of Mendlesham, Suffolk, and Beatrice de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp of Bedford. For evidence that John de Botetourte was an illegitimate son of King Edward I, see Hailes Abbey Chronicle. The family tree of Botetourte
        there given was considered in this case to be completely reliable by Mr. H.C. Richardson, the authority on this line, and agreed to by Sir Anthony Wagner, College of Arms. Though questioned by some, due to an apparent erasure in the parchment,
        the Librarian, whose care it resides, stated (and still does) that there are several other erasures and corrections, all apparently contemporary with the preparation of the original document and apparent corrections made at that time by the
        author which do not affect this identification. [Ancestral Roots]

        # Note:
        # Note: ------------------------
        # Note:
        # Note: CP gives John's ancestry as "unknown".
        # Note:
        # Note: Kay Allen AG, in a posting to soc.genealogy.medieval, cites a TAG article "The Parentage of John Botetourte (died 1324)", by F. N. Craig, July 1998: 145-153, which disproves the royal ancestry and gives a different one.
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        # Note: Page: 122a-31, 216-29
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com
        # Note: Page: G. Edward Allen, 9 Sep 1998
        # Note:
        # Note: Title: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999
        # Note: Page: 122a-31
        # Change Date: 20 OCT 2006

         

         

        Father: @*Guy Botetourte b: ABT 1239 in Ellingham, Wayland, Norfolk, England

        Marriage 1 @*Maud FitzThomas b: ABT 1275 in Mendlesham, Hartismere, Suffolk, England

        Children

        1. Has Children @*Ada de Botetourt b: ABT 1295 in St Briavel Castle, Gloucestershire, England
        2. Has Children @Thomas de Botetourt b: ABT 1289

         

      • Citation:

        e-mail: holly_tamer@yahoo.com

  2. Michael Neuman: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=clcaldwell&id=I029915 @ ralph d'aubigny.ged Caldwell and related families
      • Source text:

        # ID: I029915
        # Name: Thomas de Botetourt
        # Sex: M
        # Name: Thomas De Botetourt
        # Birth: ABT 1294 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        # Death: 1322 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England

         

         

        Father: John De Botetourt , Lord Botetourt b: ABT 1262 in Castle St. Briavel, Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire, England
        Mother: Maud fitzThomas de Mendlesham b: ABT 1265 in Mendlesham, Suffolk, England

        Marriage 1 Joan de Somery b: ABT 1292 in Dudley Castle, Worcestershire, England

        Children

        1. Has Children Sir John II de Botetourt , Lord Botetourt b: 1318 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England
        2. Has Children Maud De Botetourt b: ABT 1312 in Halesowen, Shropshire, England

      • Citation:

        e-mail: michaelneuman@earthlink.net

  3. Michael Neuman: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=clcaldwell&id=I024061&style=TABLE @ RootsWeb Caldwell and related families