Chiny

Ier de Chiny, Albert 1a 2 3 4a 5a

Birth Name Ier de Chiny, Albert
Gender male
Age at Death 64 years, 8 months, 28 days

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth 1098 Chiny, Luxembourg, Belgium   6a
Death 1162-09-29 Liege, Lotharingia, Holy Roman Empire   6b

Age: 64y

Parents

Relation to main person Name Birth date Death date Relation within this family (if not by birth)
Father de Chiny, Otton II10651125-03-28
Mother de Namur, Adelaide10681124
    Sister     de Chiny, Ida about 1083 1117
    Sister     de Chiny, Oda 1085 after 1134
    Brother     de Chiny, Hugues about 1090 1158
    Brother     de Chiny, Alberon II 1092 1145-03-27
    Brother     de Chiny, Frederic about 1096 1124
         Ier de Chiny, Albert 1098 1162-09-29
    Brother     de Chiny, Eustache about 1100 1160
    Sister     de Chiny, Alvaradis 1110 1170

Families

Family of Ier de Chiny, Albert and de Bar, Agnes
Married Wife de Bar, Agnes ( * 1118-09-29 + 1185 )
   
Event Date Place Description Sources
Marriage 1140     6c
  Children
Name Birth Date Death Date
de Chiny, Alixabout 11351177-08-16
de Chiny, Louis III11411189-08-10
de Chiny, Ida11421206

Media

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Source References

  1. ProjectMedlands Upper Lotharingia - Nobility
      • Source text:

        Chapter 8. COMTES d'IVOIS et de WOEVRE B. COMTES de CHINY1. OTTO [II] (-1131 or after).- - -m (before 1097) ALIX de Namur, daughter of ALBERT III Comte de Namur & his wife Ida of Saxony.- - -Otto [II] & his wife had seven children:f) ADALBERO (-[26] Mar 1145). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "quoque episcopus Albero Leodiensis", stating that he recovered "Bullonium per beatum Lambertum", and his sister "comitissa Lovaniensis que comiti Lovanii peperit primum Godefridum comitem", specifying that they were "de prosapia Namucensi"[600], the latter expression being one used by Alberic to indicate maternal ancestry. The passage follows that dealing with the family of Alix de Namur and her husband "comiti Ottoni de Chisneio", although the parentage of the Bishop of Liège and his sister is not specified precisely. Bishop of Liège 1136. The Continuatio Gemblacensis of Sigebert's Chronica records the death in 1136 of "domnus Alexander Leodicensium episcopus" and the succession of "domnus Adelbero ex clero Mettensi" as bishop[601]. "Albero...Leodiensis ecclesiæ episcopus" restored Stablo, referring to the unlawful claims made by "avunculum nostrum Namucensem comitem Godefridum" and by "germanus noster Eustachius Leodii advocatus" who occupied "villam Turnines", by charter dated 1139[602]. The Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium records the succession of "Alberonem...secundum primicerium Metensis ecclesie, iuvenem...de prosapia Namucensi...sororis sue filius esset dux Lovanii Godefridus filius predicti G. ducis"[603]. The Continuatio Gemblacensis of Sigebert's Chronica records war in 1140 between "Alberonem episcopum Leodicensem" and "Heinricum comitem Namucensem" after the comte de Namur invaded "opidum...Fossis" and burnt the town and "monasterio beati Foillani"[604]. The Continuatio Gemblacensis of Sigebert's Chronica records the death in 1145 of "Adelbero Leodicensis episcopus" and the succession of "Heinricus...ex clero sancti Lamberti, secundus huius nominis presul"[605]. The Aegidii Aurævallensis Gesta Episcoporum Leodiensium records the death in 1155 [error for 1145] of Bishop Adalbero "Ortide" after holding office for 15 years and his burial "Ortine...VI Kal Apr"[606].

      • Citation:

        ProjectMedlands Upper Lotharingia - Nobility (https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN (UPPER) NOBILITY.htm), Cit. Date: 21 Jan 2023.

  2. historieeurope.fr - Albert Ier de Chiny
  3. Wikipedia (F) - Albert Ier de Chiny
  4. Foundation for Medieval Genealogy - Albert de Chiny
      • Source text:

        ALBERT (-29 Sep 1162). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[596]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? Comte de Chiny.

      • Citation:

        https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/LOTHARINGIAN%20(UPPER)%20NOBILITY.htm#AlbertChinydied1162A

  5. Our royal, titled, noble and commoner ancestors - Albert, Count of Chiny
      • Source text:

        Albert, Count of Chiny1,2
        Last Edited 4 Apr 2020
        M, #27082, d. 29 September 1162
        Father Otto II, Count of Chiny & Warcq d. Mar 1131
        Mother Alix (Adelaide) de Namur b. 1068, d. a 1124
        Charts Some Descendants of Charlemagne
        Albert, Count of Chiny married Agnes von Bar, daughter of Renaud I, Count of Bar-le-Duc, Mousson, Brie, & Verdun and Gisela of Vaudemont, circa 1140.2,3 Albert, Count of Chiny died on 29 September 1162.2
        Family
        Agnes von Bar d. a 1185
        Children
        Ludwig III, Count of Chiny, Seigneur d'Orgeo+4 d. 10 Aug 1189
        Ida von Chiny+4,3 d. 17 Oct
        Alix de Chiny+5,4
        Dietrich de Melier, Seigneur de Melier, d'Etalle, & de Neufchateau+ d. a 1207
        (Miss) de Chiny+6
        Citations
        [S5255] Unknown author, Europaische Stammtafeln by Isenburg, chart 42.
        [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. I/2, Tafel 227.
        [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVII, Tafel 6.
        [S2] Detlev Schwennicke, Europaische Stammtafeln, New Series, Vol. XXVI, Tafel 59.
        [S11569] Europaische Stammtafeln, by Wilhelm Karl, Prinz zu Isenburg, Vol. III, Tafel 628.
        [S11600] 40000 Ancestors of the Counts of Paris, Person 32-301.

         

      • Citation:

        https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p902.htm#i27082

  6. G3WN-Q7L FamilySearch.org
      • Source text:

        ALBERT de Chiny, son of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife Alix de Namur (-29 Sep 1162, bur Orval). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[622]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Albertus" as son of "comes Otto de Cisneio" and his wife Alix[623]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[624]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[625]. Comte de Chiny. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[626]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "avus eius [Ludovici…comes de Cisneio] Albertus comes" was buried "in Aureavalle"[627]. The necrology of Orval records the death “III Kal Oct” of “Albertus comes de Chiney qui adduxit in conventum Cisterciensem” and his donation of property “in Sabulo”[628].

        m ([1140]) AGNES de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-after 1185). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agenete sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raymaldus" specifying that she was mother of "episcopus Vidunensis Arnulfus de Cisneio"[629]. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[630]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[631]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[632].

        Albert & his wife had eight children:

        1. LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189).
        2. THIERRY (-after 1207).
        3. ARNOUL (-killed Sainte-Ménehould 14 Aug 1181, bur Verdun Notre-Dame).
        4. ALIX (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).
        5. IDA .
        6. daughter .
        7. HUGUES .
        8. daughter .

      • Citation:

        https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G3WN-Q7L

      • Source text:

        ALBERT de Chiny, son of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife Alix de Namur (-29 Sep 1162, bur Orval). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[622]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Albertus" as son of "comes Otto de Cisneio" and his wife Alix[623]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[624]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[625]. Comte de Chiny. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[626]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "avus eius [Ludovici…comes de Cisneio] Albertus comes" was buried "in Aureavalle"[627]. The necrology of Orval records the death “III Kal Oct” of “Albertus comes de Chiney qui adduxit in conventum Cisterciensem” and his donation of property “in Sabulo”[628].

        m ([1140]) AGNES de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-after 1185). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agenete sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raymaldus" specifying that she was mother of "episcopus Vidunensis Arnulfus de Cisneio"[629]. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[630]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[631]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[632].

        Albert & his wife had eight children:

        1. LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189).
        2. THIERRY (-after 1207).
        3. ARNOUL (-killed Sainte-Ménehould 14 Aug 1181, bur Verdun Notre-Dame).
        4. ALIX (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).
        5. IDA .
        6. daughter .
        7. HUGUES .
        8. daughter .

      • Citation:

        https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G3WN-Q7L

      • Source text:

        ALBERT de Chiny, son of OTTO [II] Comte de Chiny & his wife Alix de Namur (-29 Sep 1162, bur Orval). The Genealogiæ Scriptoris Fusniacensis names "Hugo et comes Albertus et Fredericus Remensis ecclesie prepositus" as sons of "Ottonem comitem [de Cinni]"[622]. The estimated date of Albert’s marriage ([1140]) suggests that he was considerably younger than his sister Ida (whose marriage is dated to [1105]). Is it possible that they were born from different mothers? The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "comes Albertus" as son of "comes Otto de Cisneio" and his wife Alix[623]. "Arnulfus…comes" founded the priory of Sainte-Valpurge at Chiny, confirmed by "filiorum meorum Ottonis et Ludovici, nurus…meæ Adeleid", by charter dated 1097, later confirmed by "Ottonis comitis et Frederici præpositi Remensis et Alberti comitis filiorum eius et Adadis comitissæ et Guillelmi avocati"[624]. A charter dated 30 Sep 1124 notifies the consecration of the church of Orval, in the presence of “Otto comes de Cisney cum sua uxore Adelada et filiis suis...Frederico Remensis ecclesiæ præposito et Alberto post patrem comite”[625]. Comte de Chiny. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[626]. The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines records that "avus eius [Ludovici…comes de Cisneio] Albertus comes" was buried "in Aureavalle"[627]. The necrology of Orval records the death “III Kal Oct” of “Albertus comes de Chiney qui adduxit in conventum Cisterciensem” and his donation of property “in Sabulo”[628].

        m ([1140]) AGNES de Bar, daughter of RENAUD I Comte de Bar & his second wife Gisèle de Vaudémont (-after 1185). The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines names "Agenete sorore eiusdem comitis [=comes Barri iunior Raymaldus" specifying that she was mother of "episcopus Vidunensis Arnulfus de Cisneio"[629]. “Albertus Chisneiacensis comes cum uxore mea Agnete et filio Lodoyco” confirmed donations made to Sainte-Walburge by charter dated to after 18 Jun 1158[630]. “Agnes...comitissa de Chisnei...coram filiis meis Lodovico et Theodorico” attested that “dominus Cono senior de Hons” had donated “usuaria nemoris Bellonis Campaniæ“ to Orval, recalling that the donation had originally been made “per manum meam et mariti mei piæ memoriæ comitis Alberti” with the consent of “piæ memoriæ Symonis ducis Lotaringiæ” from whom Cono held half of the property, by charter dated 1172[631]. "Anetis comitissa de Chinei" donated part of the forest of Blanchampagne to the church of Moulins, for the soul of "domini Alberti comitis", by charter dated to [1185] which names "filios meos heredes, maxime Ludovicum et Teodericum"[632].

        Albert & his wife had eight children:

        1. LOUIS [III] (-Belgrade [5 Aug] 1189).
        2. THIERRY (-after 1207).
        3. ARNOUL (-killed Sainte-Ménehould 14 Aug 1181, bur Verdun Notre-Dame).
        4. ALIX (-9 Aug, after 1177, bur Brogne Abbey).
        5. IDA .
        6. daughter .
        7. HUGUES .
        8. daughter .

      • Citation:

        https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/G3WN-Q7L