Robert de Turnham^[1]

1162 - Aft 1204  (> 43 years)

• Name	Robert de Turnham
  Birth	1162	Thurnham, Hollingbourn, Kent, England   [1]
  Gender	Male
  Death	Aft 1204	Mulgrave Castle, Yorkshire, England   [2]
  	Age: 42y
  Person ID	ind16642	The Skaggs-Files
  Last Modified	22 Nov 2024

  
  

  Father	Robert de Turnham,   b. 1140   d. 1174 (Age 34 years)
  Mother	//   d. Yes, date unknown
  Family ID	fam05815	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	Joan Fossard,   b. Abt 1175, Mulgrave Castle, Yorkshire, England d. Bef 1220 (Age ~ 44 years)
  Marriage	Abt 1195  [2]
  	BET 1194 AND 1197
  Children	1. Isabel de Turnham,   b. Abt 1197, Mulgrave Castle, Yorkshire, England d. Bef 22 Jan 1237, Meaux Priory, East Riding, Yorkshire, England (Age ~ 40 years)
  Family ID	fam4288650655	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	22 Nov 2024

  
  

• Notes

  I have two separate sources for a Robert de Turnham: (1) as father of Beatrice m. Ralph de Fay (Plantagenet Ancestry); (2) as father of Isabel, heir of Robert de Turnham m. Pier de Mauley in c 1214 (CP). I originally had them as the same Robert; however the dates indicate that there are probably 2 different ones; as well as the fact that Isabel is 'heir' - not 'coheir' of Robert, according to CP. Therefore I have added a 2nd Robert, father of Isabel and son of Robert (who was father of Beatrice).This also allows Isabel to have a birth date of c 1197, which fits well with a marriage date of c 1214 and her parent's marriage date of c 1194-7. ------------------------ Robert de Turnham, who was Steward of Anjou in 1199, and Steward of Poitou in 1204, had m. c 1194/97, Joan, daughter and heir of William Fossard. Piers thus acquired in right of his wife the numerous lands comprising the Fossard fee in Yorkshire, which in 1166 had amounted to 33 1/2 knights' fees. [Complete Peerage VIII:555 note (c)] --- Sources: Title: AFN: Abbrev: AFN: Title: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Family Abbrev: The Phillips, Weber, Kirk and Staggs Family Author: Jim Weber

  
  

• Sources

  [source03830] Holly Forrest Tamer, http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=stolp&id=I1939 Stolp Line, (Publication Date: 26 SEP 2006 Media: Video / Movie (Tape, Cassette, CD/DVD, MPEG)). ID: I1939 Name: @*Robert de Turnham Sex: M Birth: ABT 1140 Death: 1174 Note: Founder of Lambwell Priory Note: Note: Title: The Plantagenet Ancestry, by William Henry Turton, 1968 Note: Page: 133 Note: Note: Title: Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com Note: Page: Doug Smith, 20 Feb 2003 Change Date: 26 SEP 2006 Father: @*Robert de Turnham b: ABT 1115 in Thurnham, Hollingbourn, Kent, England Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown Children *Robert de Turnham b: ABT 1162 in Thurnham, Hollingbourn, Kent, England @*Stephen de Turnham b: ABT 1165 in Great Berwick near Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England @*Mabel Turnham b: ABT 1174 in Thurnham, Hollingbourn, Kent, England holly_tamer@yahoo.com [source4071143182] H. Schluckbier, http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=PED&db=schluck&id=I11827&style=TABLE My Little Obsession, (Publication Date: 09 APR 2004 Media: Website / URL).