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Media: Website / URL).
ID: I5702
Name: Sir Robert (Fursan) de Ros 4th Lord of HAMLAKE
Surname: Hamlake
Given Name: Sir Robert (Fursan) de Ros 4th Lord of
Sex: M
Birth: ABT 1170 in , Hamlake, Yorkshire, England
Death: BEF 23 Dec 1227
Burial: Church of the Temple, London, England
Ancestral File #: 9G44-3Q
LDS Baptism: 12 Sep 1992 Temple: OGDEN 1
Endowment: 29 Jan 1993 Temple: OGDEN 1
Sealing Child: 4 Mar 1993 Temple: OGDEN 1
Note:
Robert de Ros, Magna Charta Surety
Sheriff of Cumberland
Sir Robert de Ros, of Helmsley in Holderness, co. York., & c.; d. before 23 Dec 1226 = 1191 (2nd husband) Isabel, natural daughter of William 'the Lion', King of Scots
Notes from http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/GEN-MEDIEVAL/2005-11/1132187872
3. ROBERT DE ROOS, Knt., of Wark, Northumberland and Samquhar in Nithsdale, Scotland, younger son. He married an unidentified wife, _____. They had two sons, William and Robert, and two daughters, Isabel and Ida (wife of Roger Bertram, Robert de Neville, Knt., and John Fitz Marmaduke, Knt.). He fought in France in 1230, was Justice of the King's Bench in 1234 and went on circuit in Lincolnshire, Yorkshire, and Northumberland. He was Chief Justice of the Forests of Nottinghamshire, Derby, Yorkshire, Lancashire, Northumberland, and Cumberland on 27 Nov. 1236. He had a grant for free-warren in Wark, Carham, Presson, Mindrum, Downham, Moneylands and Learmouth, Northumberland, 28 Dec. 1251. He lent his Castle of Wark to the King from 28 August 1255 till 12 May 1256. In 1255, with John de Balliol, he was appointed Guardian of Margaret, Queen of Scotland, but was accused of unfaithfulness in that trust. He was summoned to appear at the English Court, and eventually submitted, whereupon his lands were seised by the King. On subsequent investigation, he was found to be not guilty, and Wark Castle was restored to him and his older brother, William, 7 Nov. 1259. In 1266 he conveyed the reversion of the manor of Wark, Northumberland to his younger son, Robertd de Roos. SIR ROBERT DE ROOS was living in 1267, but died shortly before Nov. 1269.
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Change Date: 25 Aug 2008 at 15:41:05
Father: Everard De ROS b: ABT 1144 in Helmsley Castle, Holderness, Yorkshire, England
Mother: Roysia (Roese) TRUSBUT b: ABT 1146 in Ingmanthorpe,Kirk Deighton,Yorkshire,England
Marriage 1 Isabel Princess of SCOTLAND b: ABT 1150 in Of Scotland
Married: 1191 in , Haddington, Lincolnshire, England
Sealing Spouse: 24 Feb 1993 in IFALL 1
Children
Sir William of Hamlake or Helmsley De ROS b: ABT 1196 in , Helmsley, Yorkshire, England
Hugh Earl of ROSS b: 1200 in Ward, Northumberland, England
Robert Lord Of Wark on Tweed de ROOS b: 1206 in Wark, England
Isabel de ROOS b: ABT 1227
Sources:
Repository:
Name: Family History Library
Salt Lake City, UT 84150 USA
Title: Ordinance Index (TM)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Repository:
Name: Family History Library
Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA
Title: Ancestral File (R)
Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints
Publication: Copyright (c) 1987, June 1998, data as of 5 January 1998
bevangenealogyservices@hotmail.com
- [source4071153645] Northumberland pleas from the Curia regis and assize rolls, 1198-1272, (Newcastle upon Tyne
Publisher: Northumberland Press
Publication Date: 1922
Editor: A. Hamilton Thompson
Media: Book).
Robert and Isabel de Ros Make an Indenture
Northumberland pleas from the Curia regis and assize rolls, 1198-1272, vol. 2, pp 42-3
https://archive.org/details/northumberlandpl02grea/page/42/mode/2up?q=Ros+
- [source4071153646] Robert de Rose (died 1227), Wikipedia, (Publication Date: 29 AUG 2024
Media: Website / URL).
Sir Robert de Ros (died c. 1227) was an Anglo-Norman feudal baron, soldier and administrator who was one of the twenty-five barons appointed under clause 61 of Magna Carta to monitor its observance by King John of England.[1][2]
Origins
Born about 1182, he was the son and heir of Everard de Ros (died before 1184) and his wife Roese (died 1194), daughter of William Trussebut, of Warter.[1][2] Robert "Farfan" had a sister Alice, who married William II de Percy, 3rd feudal baron of Topcliffe (d. 1174/5), and left two daughters Maud and Agnes as co-heiresses.[3] The Ros family, from the village of Roos in Yorkshire, had in 1158 acquired the barony of Helmsley, also in Yorkshire, and before 1189 by gift of King Henry II the barony of Wark on Tweed in Northumberland.[4]
Career
Left fatherless, his lands were initially in the keeping of the Chief Justiciar of England, Ranulf de Glanvill.[2] In 1191, though under age, he paid a 1,000-mark fee to inherit his father's lands.[1] In that year he also married a widow who was an illegitimate daughter of King William I of Scotland.[1][2] Later he inherited from his mother one-third of the Trussebut estates, which included lands near the town of Bonneville-sur-Touques in Normandy, of which he became hereditary bailiff and castellan.[1][2]
In 1196, during fighting between King Richard I of England and King Philip II of France, Richard captured a French knight worth a significant ransom and put him in the castle of Bonneville. When the keeper of the castle let the knight escape, an angry Richard had the man hanged and imprisoned Ros, fining him 1,200 marks (though he was later let off 275 marks).[1][2]
Like many magnates, he had an uneasy relationship with King John after 1199. He witnessed the King's charters, served in his armies, went on diplomatic missions for him (one in 1199 to Ros's father-in-law in Scotland), and on one occasion was reported gambling with him in Ireland. Tension arose in 1205, when John ordered his lands to be seized but later relented.[1] It was possibly then that his younger son was taken as a hostage by the King.[1][2]
In 1206 he was given permission to mortgage his lands if during the next three years he went to Jerusalem, as a crusading knight or as an individual pilgrim.[1][2] The permission was renewed in 1207, but his record was marred by the escape that year of another prisoner under his supervision, for which he was fined 300 marks. Back in favour in 1209, he was sent again on a diplomatic mission to Scotland but does not seem to have gone to Palestine,[1] for in 1210 he was serving with John in Ireland.[2]
In 1212, on account of him entering a monastic order, John gave custody of his lands to Sir Philip Oldcoates. But he re-entered secular life the next year, when the King made him sheriff of Cumberland and appointed him to a commission investigating grievances in Lincolnshire and Yorkshire. In the latter county, he worked for a reconciliation between John and William de Forz, heir to the extensive estates there of Hawise, Countess of Aumale.[1]
In October 1213 he was one of the witnesses when John surrendered England to the authority of the Pope and he was one of the twelve guarantors appointed to ensure John kept his promises.[1][2] Throughout the disturbances of 1214 and the first quarter of 1215 he remained loyal to John, being rewarded with royal manors in Cumberland and royal support for the election of his aunt as abbess of Barking Abbey. However he then joined the rebel barons as one of the 25 chosen to enforce observance of Magna Carta, being appointed by them to control Yorkshire and possibly Northumberland. For this he was excommunicated by the Pope, and John gave his lands to William de Forz.[1]
Ordered by John to give up Carlisle Castle, he did so but remained on the rebel side after the death of John in October 1216, supporting Prince Louis even after his elder son was captured by the loyalist side in May 1217. He finally submitted later that year, and regained most of his lands. Intermittent unrest in Yorkshire continued, with fighting in 1220 between his men and those of the sheriff,[1] followed in 1221 with him being summoned to help take and destroy Skipsea Castle during the rebellion of William de Forz.[1][2]
In 1225 he was one of the witnesses to the reissue of Magna Carta and by the end of 1226 had re-entered a monastic order,[1][2] possibly the Knights Templar. His Helmsley estates, where he had fortified the castle, then went to his elder son, while Wark, also fortified by him, went to the younger.[2][4] He died that year, or in 1227, and was buried in the Temple Church in London.[1]
Benefactions
He was a supporter of the Knights Templar, giving them lands in Yorkshire that included Ribston, where they set up a commandery. At Bolton in Northumberland, he founded a leper hospital dedicated to St Thomas Becket,[1] endowing it with extensive lands. He was also a benefactor of Rievaulx Abbey, Newminster Abbey and Kirkham Priory.[2]
Family
Early in 1191, at Haddington near Edinburgh, he married Isabella, widow of Robert III de Brus and illegitimate daughter of William I "the Lion", King of Scotland.[1][2] Her mother was said to be a daughter of Robert Avenel.[citation needed]
Their children included:
William (died about 1265), of Helmsley, whose wife was named Lucy,[2] and their son was Robert (died 1285).[1]
Robert (died about 1270), of Wark, who married Christina,[4] daughter of William Bertram, of Mitford,[citation needed] and their son Robert (died about 1274) was his heir.[4]
References
Thomas, Hugh M. (22 September 2005). "Ros, Robert de (c. 1182–1226/7)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Subscription or UK public library membership needed). Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/24077. (Subscription or UK public library membership required.)
Geoffrey H. White, ed. (1949), "Ros", The Complete Peerage, vol. XI, London: The St Catherine Press, p. 92, retrieved 7 May 2018
"Pedigree: Everard de ROS (of Hamlake; ROOS)". fabpedigree.com.
Vincent, Nicholas (25 May 2006). "Ros, Robert de (d. c. 1270)". Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (Subscription or UK public library membership needed). Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (online ed.). Oxford University Press. doi:10.1093/ref:odnb/24078. (Subscription or UK public library membership required.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_de_Ros_(died_1227)
- [source4071153647] Close rolls of the reign of Henry III : preserved in the Public Record Office ; printed under the superintendence of the Deputy Keeper of the Records, (London
Publisher: H. M. Stationery Office
Publication Date: 1902
Media: Book).
Regarding the Will of Robert de Ros (I)
The sheriff of York was ordered to distrain the abbot of Rivallis to pay to the lord the king the debt he owed to God for Robert de Ros, whereupon he acknowledged before the archbishop of York W. and the other executors of Robert's will that he owed the lord the king; that which the lord the king should have at the Exchequer at Easter, in the year etc
https://archive.org/details/closerollsofreig01grea/page/n35/mode/2up?view=theater&q=Ros
- [source4071153648] Robert de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley, "The Peerage", (Publication Date: 19 JAN 2011
Media: Website / URL).
Robert de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley was the son of Everard de Ros and Roese Trussebut.2,3 He married Isabella (?), daughter of William I 'the Lion', King of Scotland and unknown daughter Avenal, in 1191 at Haddington, East Lothian, ScotlandG.3 He was also reported to have been married in 1183.4,5 He died in 1226.4
He was Baliff of the district of the royal Castle of Bonneville sur Toques, Normandy.3 He has an extensive biographical entry in the Dictionary of National Biography.5
In 1210 he served with King John in Ireland.3 Robert de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley also went by the nick-name of Robert 'Furfan'.4 He held the office of Sheriff of Cumberland between 1213 and 1215.3 He was one of the 25 barons selected to oversee the provisions of the Magna Carta.3
Children of Robert de Ros, 1st Lord Ros of Helmsley and Isabella (?)
John de Ros+1
Sir William de Ros+6 d. c 1264
Sir Robert de Ros+3
Citations
[S2] Peter W. Hammond, editor, The Complete Peerage or a History of the House of Lords and All its Members From the Earliest Times, Volume XIV: Addenda & Corrigenda (Stroud, Gloucestershire, U.K.: Sutton Publishing, 1998), page 50. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage, Volume XIV.
[S77] Leslie Stephen, editor, Dictionary of National Biography (London, U.K.: Smith, Elder & Company, 1908), volume III, page 114. Hereinafter cited as Dictionary of National Biography.
[S37] BP2003 volume 1, page 1107. See link for full details for this source. Hereinafter cited as. [S37]
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Families: The Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 198. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Families.
[S77] Leslie Stephen, Dictionary of National Biography, volume III, page 115.
[S1545] Mitchell Adams, "re: West Ancestors," e-mail message to Darryl Roger Lundy, 6 December 2005 - 19 June 2009. Hereinafter cited as "re: West Ancestors."
https://www.thepeerage.com/p4790.htm#i47895
- [source4071153649] Robert de Roos, Magna Carta Surety, 4th Baron Hamlake, Sheriff of Cumberland, "Our Royal, Titled, Noble, and Commoner Ancestors", (Publication Date: 04 APR 2020
Media: Website / URL).
M, #11260, b. between 1170 and 1172, d. 1227
Father Everard de Roos, Baron of Helmsley2,3 d. 1183
Mother Roese Trusbutt2,3 b. c 1151, d. bt 1194 - 29 Sep 1196
Robert de Roos, Magna Carta Surety, 4th Baron Hamlake, Sheriff of Cumberland was born between 1170 and 1172 at of Helmsley & Hunsingore, Yorkshire, England; Age 13 in 1185, but of age in 1191.2,3 He married Isabel of Scotland, daughter of William I 'the Lion', King of Scotland, Earl of Northumberland and Isabel de Avernal, circa February 1191 at Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland; Early in the year. They had 2 sons (Sir William; & Sir Robert).2,3,4 Robert de Roos, Magna Carta Surety, 4th Baron Hamlake, Sheriff of Cumberland died in 1227 at England; Buried in the Temple Church, London.2,3
Family
Isabel of Scotland b. c 1165
Children
Sir William de Roos+2,3 b. c 1193, d. 1258 or 1264
Sir Robert de Roos, Chief Justice of the King's Bench+5,2,6,3 b. b Feb 1207, d. bt 1267 - Nov 1269
Citations
[S3006] Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. XI, p. 92-93; Magna Charta Sureties, 1215, 4th Ed., by F. L. Weis, p. 129; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 790; Stemmata Robertson, p. 220.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 444-445.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 484-486.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 586.
[S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III, p. 294.
[S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. IV, p. 300.
https://our-royal-titled-noble-and-commoner-ancestors.com/p375.htm#i11260
- [source4071153650] ROBERT de Ros, "Foundation for Medieval Genealogy", (Publication Date: 22 SEP 2024
Media: Website / URL).
ROBERT de Ros "Fursan", son of EVERARD de Ros & his wife Rohese Trussebut ([1172/73]-before 23 Dec 1226, bur London). The Liber Memorandorum Ecclesie de Bernewelle records that "Albreda de Harecurt" was mother of three sisters "Roysia, Hyllaria et Agatha", adding that Rohese was mother of "Robertus de Ros senior"[374]. A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that “Everardum de Roos” married “Rosam”, by whom he was father of “Robertum de Roos dictum Fursan”[375]. The Rotuli de Dominabus of 1185 records “uxor Everardi de Ros que fuit filia Willelmi Trussebut…xxxv” and her land “in Strowestone”, adding that she had "ii filios, primogenitus est xiii annorum et terra eius est in custodia Ranulfi de Glanville"[376]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1190/91], records "Robertus de Ros" paying "lx s x d" in Yorkshire[377]. The Red Book of the Exchequer, listing scutage payments in [1194/95], records "Robertus de Ros" paying "vi l xviii s" in Yorkshire[378]. The Red Book of the Exchequer records "Robertus de Ros" holding parts of one knight’s fee in "Hokintone" in Norfolk, Suffolk, and "baronium de Werc" with two knights’ fees in Northumberland, in [1210/12][379]. The Testa de Nevill includes a writ of King John dated 1212 which records "Robertus de Ros" holding "baroniam de Werke" in Northumberland which had been granted by King Henry I "vel datum per marritagium vel elemosinam vel aliquo modo"[380]. Bailiff of the royal castellany of Bonneville sur Toques in Normandy. Sheriff of Cumberland 1213-1215. He was one of the barons appointed to enforce Magna Carta. He became a Templar, and retired from secular life in 1226[381]. A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that “Robertum de Roos dictum Fursan” became “Templarius” and was buried "Londini"[382].
m (Haddington early 1191) as her second husband, ISABEL, widow of ROBERT de Brus Lord of Annandale, illegitimate daughter of WILLIAM I "the Lion" King of Scotland & his mistress --- Avenal. The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1183 of "William king of the Scots…his daughter Isabella" and "Robert de Brus"[383]. The Chronicle of Melrose records the marriage in 1191 of "the king of Scots…his daughter Ysembel (the widow of Robert de Brus)" and "Robert de Ross" at Haddington[384]. A manuscript narrating the foundation of Rievaulx Abbey records that “Robertum de Roos dictum Fursan” married “Isabellam filiam regis Scotiæ”, by whom he was father of “Willielmum de Roos et Robertum”, and also lists their descendants[385].
Robert & his wife had two children:
https://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/ENGLISHNOBILITYMEDIEVAL3P-S.htm#RobertRosdied1226B
- [source4071153651] Pedigree of de Ros of Wark.
- [source4071153652] A history of Northumberland. issued under the direction of the Northumberland county history committee, (Newcastle-upon-Tyne
Publisher: A. Reid, sons & co.
Publication Date: 1893
Media: Book).
- [source4071153653] Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900/Ros, Robert de (d.1227), (Publication Date: 28 DEC 2020
Media: Website / URL).
ROS or ROSSE, ROBERT de (d. 1227), surnamed Fursan, baron, was the son of Everard de Ros of Helmsley or Hamlake in the North Riding of Yorkshire. The family also held lands in Holderness, where was situated Ros, to which they gave, or from which they received, their name. Robert succeeded to his father's lands in 1191, paying a relief of one thousand marks. In 1195 he was bailiff and castellan of Bonneville-sur-Touques in Lower Normandy, near which the Norman lands of the family lay (Stapleton, Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, vol. i. pp. cxl, clxiv, vol. ii. pp. lxxvi, lxxvii). In 1196, after a battle between the men of Philip Augustus and those of Richard I, Richard handed over to Robert's keeping Hugh de Chaumont, a wealthy knight and intimate friend of Philip Augustus. Robert imprisoned him in his castle of Bonneville. But his servant, the keeper of the castle, William D'Epinay, was bribed into conniving at Hugh's escape. Richard, angry at the loss of so important a prisoner, ordered D'Epinay to be hanged, and imposed a fine of twelve hundred marks on his master. Two hundred and forty marks of this were still unpaid on 29 Jan. 1204, when King John remitted one hundred marks (Patent Rolls, p. 38).
Immediately after his accession John sent Robert and others to William the Lion of Scotland, Robert's father-in-law, to arrange an interview between the two sovereigns for 20 Nov. 1199 (Rog. Hov. iv. 140). On 6 Jan. 1200 he received from the king a grant of all the honours and lands which had belonged to Walter Espec in the county of Northumberland, including Wark, where Robert built a castle [see Espec, Walter]. In the succeeding years he witnessed several royal charters, chiefly at places in the north of England, but on 7 Oct. 1203 was again at Bonneville-sur-Touques (Charter Rolls, p. 111 b), and seems to have been in Normandy in John's service during the later months of that year, returning to England before 22 Feb. 1204, when he was at York (ib. pp. 114 a, 119 b; Rotuli Normanniæ, p. 113). In the spring of 1205 he had some difficulty with John, possibly about the balance of his fine, and his lands were ordered to be seized (Close Rolls, i. 24 b), but an order for their restoration was soon issued (ib. i. 31). On 28 Feb. 1206 he received license, whenever he should take the cross, to pledge his lands for money to any one of the king's subjects any time during the following three years (Hunter, Rotuli Selecti, p. 17). This permission was renewed on 26 Feb. 1207. We do not know whether Robert took the crusading vow. For some reason, possibly on account of the arrears of his fine, his son Robert was in the king's hands as a hostage on 13 Feb. of that year (Patent Rolls, p. 59 b). Robert seems to have let another prisoner escape, a certain Thomas de Bekering, and on 28 Dec. 1207 was acquitted of a fine of three hundred marks for this new offence (Close Rolls, i. 99). On 10 April 1209 he was sent with others by the king to meet the king of Scotland (Patent Rolls, p. 91).
In 1212 Robert seems to have assumed the monastic habit, and on 15 May of that year John therefore handed over the custody of his lands to Philip de Ulecot (Close Rolls, i. 116 b). His profession cannot, however, have lasted long, for on 30 Jan. 1213 the king committed to him the forest and county of Cumberland (Patent Rolls, p. 96 b), while on 25 Feb. he was made one of a commission to inquire into grievances, more especially the exactions of the royal officers in the counties of Lincoln and York (ib. p. 97). Among other royal favours which he received this year was that of a license to send across the seas a ship laden with wool and hides to bring back wine in exchange (9 Sept. Close Rolls, i. 149 b). He interceded with the king in favour of his suzerain in Holderness, William of Aumâle, and succeeded in getting him a safe-conduct as a preliminary to a reconciliation (1 Oct. Patent Rolls, p. 104b). On 3 Oct. he was one of the witnesses to John's surrender of the kingdom to the pope, and was one of the twelve great men who undertook to compel John to keep his promises made in favour of the English church (Charter Rolls, p. 195; Literæ Cantuarienses, Rolls Ser. i. 21). During the troubled year 1214 and the early part of 1215 he continued in John's service as sheriff of Cumberland, and on 10 April 1215 received the royal manors of Sowerby, Carleton, and Oulsby, all near Penrith in Cumberland and Westmoreland (Close Rolls, i. 194). About the same time John ordered Peter des Roches [q. v.] to do all that he could to secure the election of Robert's aunt as abbess of Barking, and in no wise permit the election of the sister of Robert FitzWalter, one of the baronial leaders (ib. i. 202).
But John failed, despite these favours, to secure Ros's adherence in his struggle with the barons. According to Roger of Wendover (ii. 114), Ros was one of the chief ‘incentors of this pest’ (i.e. the baronial resistance to the king) in the meeting of the magnates at Stamford in the week following 19 April. He was one of the twenty-five barons elected to compel the observance of the Great charter (Matt. Paris, ii. 605), and took part in the resistance to John after his absolution from his oath by the pope. In consequence he was excommunicated by Innocent IV in January 1216 (Rog. Wend. ii. 169). After the king's successes in the north in the early part of that year, a castle belonging to Robert was one of the only two that remained in the possession of the barons in the north of England (ib. ii. 167). John granted his lands to William, earl of Aumâle, on 27 Jan. 1216 (Close Rolls, i. 246 b). He was summoned to deliver up Carlisle Castle, and expressed his readiness to do so, merely asking for a safe-conduct for an interview, which the king promised (ib. i. 269). John repeated the offer on 12 April, but it led to nothing. Robert held the government of Northumberland, and seems to have continued his resistance even after John's death. His son William was captured at Lincoln in May 1217 (Cont. Gerv. Cant. ii. 111).
Robert in time submitted, and Henry III commanded his manors of Sowerby, Carleton, and Oulsby to be restored to him on 23 July 1218, and orders to different bailiffs of the king to allow him to hold his lands unmolested were issued on 22 Nov. 1220 (Close Rolls, i. 441). In February 1221 he was summoned to help in besieging and destroying Skipsea Castle (ib. i. 474 b). In 1222 he seems to have complained to the king that the king of Scotland was encroaching on English territory, and a commission of inquiry was appointed (ib. i. 496 b). Whether it was that the sheriff of Cumberland, apparently Walter, bishop of Carlisle, had delayed to restore his lands through jealousy, or that they had been seized again, their restoration was again ordered on 24 May 1222. On 23 May of the following year the king forbade the same sheriff of Cumberland to exact tallages from the royal manors given to Robert. A renewed order to give Robert seisin of these manors on 6 Feb. 1225 seems to point to further disobedience to the king's former orders (ib. ii. 15). Robert witnessed the third reissue of the Great charter on 11 Feb. of that year. On 26 Feb. 1226 Henry ordered the barons of the exchequer to deduct from the firm of the county owing by Walter, bishop of Carlisle, the revenues of the royal manors given to Robert de Ros. Robert again took the monastic habit before 18 Jan. 1227 (ib. ii. 166 b). He died in that year, and was buried in the Temple Church at London. He married Isabella, daughter of William the Lion, king of Scotland, and had by her two sons: William (d. 1257–8), whose son Robert, first baron Ros, is noticed under William de Ros, second baron Ros; and Robert de Ros, Baron Ros of Wark [q. v.] He gave the manor of Ribston (West Riding of Yorkshire) to the knights templars, who established a commandery there (Stapleton, Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Norm. vol. ii. p. lxxvii). He also gave several houses in York to the same order (Close Rolls, i. 117 b). He founded the leprosery of St. Thomas the Martyr at Bolton (probably in Northumberland, five and a half miles west of Alnwick) (Close Rolls, ii. 182).
[Rotuli Chartarum Johannis, Rotuli Litterarum Clausarum, and Rotuli Litterarum Patentium, Rotuli Normanniæ, and Hunter's Rotuli Selecti, all published by the Record Commission; Roger of Hoveden, Roger of Wendover, Matthew Paris, Shirley's Letters of Henry III (Rolls Ser.); Dugdale's Baronage of England, i. 546; Baker's Northamptonshire, i. 269; Poulson's Holderness; Stapleton's Magni Rotuli Scaccarii Normanniæ, 2 vols. 8vo, 1840.]
https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Dictionary_of_National_Biography,_1885-1900/Ros,_Robert_de_(d.1227)
- [source4071153640] L8YY-RMM
FamilySearch.org, (Publication Date: 22 SEP 2024
Media: Website / URL).
Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Biography
by Professor Nigel Saul
"Robert de Ros (c. 1182-1226/7), kinsman through marriage of Eustace de Vesci, and the son of Everard de Ros and Roese, née Trussebut, was a Yorkshire lord, the owner of extensive estates centring on Helmsley in the North Riding of Yorkshire and Wark-on-Tweed in Northumberland. He was married, at an unknown date, to Isabella, an illegitimate daughter of William the Lion, king of Scotland, and widow of Robert III de Brus.
"In the early 1200s Robert is found co-operating actively with King John, witnessing a number of his charters, chiefly at locations in northern England, and in 1203 assisting in the king’s defence of Normandy, whereby descent from his mother he held the hereditary office of bailiff and constable of Bonneville-sur-Touques in the lower part of the duchy. In 1205, however, a year of rising political tension, there are signs that his relations with the king were worsening, and John ordered the seizure of his lands and, apparently shortly afterwards, had his son taken hostage. Robert, a little later, recovered his lands, but an indication that he might have been interested in leaving England is given by his acquisition of a licence to pledge his lands for crusading. It is not known, however, if he ever actually did embark for the East.
"In 1212 Robert seems to have entered a monastery, and on 15 May that year John handed over custody of his lands to one Philip de Ulcot. His monastic profession, however, cannot have lasted for long, for on 30 January 1213 John appointed him sheriff of Cumberland, and later in the same year he was one of the witnesses to John’s surrender of his kingdom to the pope. In 1215, as relations between the king and the baronial opposition worsened, John seems to have tried to keep Robert on his side, ordering one of his counsellors to try to secure the election of Robert’s aunt as abbess of Barking. By April, however, Robert was firmly on the baronial side, attending the baronial muster at Stamford and, after June, being nominated to the committee of twenty-five.
"When war between the king and his opponents broke out towards the end of the year, Robert was active on the baronial side, forfeiting his lands as a result and suffering the capture of his son at the battle of Lincoln in May 1217. After Louis returned to France, Robert submitted to the new government and recovered most, although not all, of his lands. He witnessed the third and definitive reissue of Magna Carta on 11 February 1225. Sometime before 1226 he retired to a monastery and he died either in that year or early in 1227. At some stage he was received into the ranks of the Templars and on his death he was buried in the Temple Church in London, where a few years earlier William Marshal, the one-time Regent had been buried. An effigy in that church sometimes associated with him dates from at least a generation later.
"Robert is an enigmatic individual who had close ties with Eustace de Vesci but did not openly join the rebellion until just before Runnymede. He probably felt a conflict between his sense of loyalty to his fellow Northerners and his obligation of obedience to the king."
~ Biography courtesy of Professor Nigel Saul and the Magna Carta 800th Anniversary Committee
Research Notes
Helmsley/Hamlake etc
Helmsley in Yorkshire was known in the past as Hamlake or Hamelac (or other variant spellings).[10][11]
Sources
↑ Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013, Volume IV, pp. 487-489 ROOS #5. See also WikiTree's source page for ‘’Royal Ancestry’’.
↑ Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011, Volume III, pp. 444-445, Google Books
↑ G E Cokayne. Complete Peerage. Vol. XI, St Catherine Press, 1949, pp. 92-93
↑Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Ros, Robert de (c. 1182–1226/7)', 2004, revised online 2005, available online via some libraries
Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, entry for 'Ros, Robert de (d.1227)', Wikisource
↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 294, PARR 2
↑ J Sanders. English Baronies. A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1960, pp. 53, 56 and 149
↑ Historic England website, Helmsley Castle, accessed 22 October 2019
↑ 'Parishes: Helmsley', in A History of the County of York North Riding, Vol. 1, ed. William Page (London, 1914), pp. 485-505, British History Online , accessed 22 October 2019
↑ Wikipedia: Helmsley Castle
↑ 'Parishes: Helmsley', in A History of the County of York North Riding (Victoria County History: Yorkshire, North Riding), Volume 1, ed. William Page (London, 1914), pp. 485-505, British History Online, accessed 20 October 2019
Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011, Volume III pages 294, 444-445. See also WikiTree's source page
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/L8YY-RMM
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Abt 1172 - 1227 (~ 55 years)
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