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My Little Obsession, (Publication Date: 09 APR 2007
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# ID: I9436
# Name: Robert IV BERTRAM 1 2
# Sex: M
# Change Date: 01 MAR 2004
# Birth: 23 APR 1287 in Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England
# Death: BEF 07 OCT 1314 in Castle, Mitford, Northumberland, England
# Occupation: Baron of Mitford
Father: Roger BERTRAM b: ABT 1265 in Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Mother: Alice GUBIUM b: ABT 1265 in Northumberland, England
Marriage 1 Spouse Unknown
Children
1. Has Children Robert V BERTRAM b: 31 MAR 1307 in Bothal Demesne, Morpeth, Northumberland, England
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- [source4071149158] Robert (Ogle) de Ogle (1351 - abt. 1409) | WikiTree, (Media: Website / URL).
Sir Robert de Ogle formerly Ogle aka Ogill, Angle
Born 8 Dec 1351 in Callerton, Northumberland, Englandmap
Son of Robert (Ogle) de Ogle and Helen Bertram
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of Joan (Heton) Ogle — married before 1373 [location unknown]
Father of Robert Ogle and John (Ogle) Bertram
Died about 1 Nov 1409 at about age 57 in Ogle Castle, Ward, Northumberland, England
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Biography
Sir Robert Ogle, Knt. (b. 08 Dec 1351 - d. 01 Nov 1409),[1][2][3] Baron of Ogle, Bothal and Hepple,[4][5][6] was the son of:
Robert Ogle (b. aft. 1331 - dvp. Nov 1355),[7]
and Joan Hepple.[7]
He may have been born at Callerton on 08 December 1353.[8] Ogle (1902), agrees with the month, day and location, but says he was born in 1351 ... adding that he was baptized in Ponteland, Northumberland.
Ogle (1902), states that Robert was also known as Sir Robert Angle of Bothal and Ogle.[9]
Robert was knighted before 12 Richard II (c. 1387).[4] According to Froissart, Ogle prepared for the Battle of Otterburn at Newcastle with Sir Ralph Lumley, Sir Matthew Redman, captain of Berwick, Sir Thomas Grey, Sir Thomas Holton, Sir John Felton, Sir John Lilleburn, Sir Thomas Abingdon, Baron Hilton, and Sir John Coppledike; but was apparently taken prisoner.[10][11][12]
He was already married to Joan de Heaton,[13] by the time he was twenty-one.[7] As daughter and co-heir of Sir Alexander de Heton, Knt., Joan's property went to Richard in the 12th year of Richard II's reign (c. 1389).[13]
Because his father died prematurely in 1355, Robert became his grandfather's heir in 1363.[7][14] Part of his inheritance included Bothal castle and manor, but it was the home of his step-grandmother, Blanche Bertram. Helen Bertram had the reversion of Bothal, only after Blanche died.[15]
According to the inquisition post-mortem for Robert's step-father David de Holgrave, Robert was over thirty-years-old on 29 August 1405.[16]
Death
bur. Hexham Abbey Church.[18][3]
Robert's death in October of 1409/11,[19][20][7] triggered an inheritance battle over Bothal Castle between his sons:[13][21] [22] heir Robert (1379 - 1436), and the distinguished John Bertram ... who not only had the legal claim,[21] but actually lived there.[13][23][19]
inquisition post-mortem
08 Nov 1409: writ.[1]
17 Apr 1410: inq. p.m. at Newcastle upon Tyne (Lisle).[1]
Jurors: [1]
John de Lisle
Richard Craster or Craucestre
Nicholas Turpin or Turpyn
John Belasis or Belasys
Thomas de Whitle
John Delaval or de la Vale of Benwell
Simon de Weltden junior
John de Wetwod
Hugh Galon
William Cramlington or Cramlyngton
William Lawson or Lauson
William Sabram
William Young or Yonge .
21 Apr 1410 Newcastle upon Tyne (Langton).[1]
Jurors: William Last’ ; John Annotson ‘barker’; Richard de Newby ; Thomas de Eltame ; Thomas Hautwisill ; John de Milne ; William de Eltame ; John Weteslade ; John de Bolton [E: Bolom]; Thomas Philip ; William Arnold ; and Thomas Esyngwald.[1]
'He died on 1 Nov. last . Robert de Ogle, knight , his son and heir is aged 30 years and more.'[1][24]
Other Property
Hephall manor[13]
Town of Lour-bottil.[13]
Sources
↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 "E-CIPM 19-735: ROBERT DE OGLE, senior, KNIGHT." Inquisitions Post Mortem: Mapping the Medieval Countryside. www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk. Web.
↑ [1]
↑ 3.0 3.1 Ogle, 1902, p. 41
↑ 4.0 4.1 Ogle, 1902, p. 39
↑ Wallis, J. (1769). The Natural History and Antiquities of Northhumberland: And of So Much of the County of Durham A Lies Between the Rivers Tyne and Tweed, Commonly Called North Bishoprick, (Vol. II). N.p. Google Books. Web. 16 Jan. 2014.better citation needed
CAUTION: Wallis (1769), gets Helen Bertram's first husband wrong. He's actually talking about Margaret Gumbion's husband, who was at the Battle of Stanhop and Neville's cross. However, Sir Alexander Ogle, captain of Berwick, is the brother of Joan Hepple's husband... so Wallis is mixing up a few men of the same name. He also repeats Burke's (1831) mistake and inserts a generation.
↑ The History of Parliament
↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple, p. 39. eBook.
↑ Welford, R., ed (1884). History of Newcastle and Gateshead: 14th and 15th Centuries, 1, p.186. London: Walter Scott. Google Books.
↑ Ogle, 1902, p. 40
Ogle, H.A.(1902). Ogle and Bothal: History of the baronies of Ogle, Bothal, and Hepple, p.39.
↑ Henderson, T. (2006, Mar 20). Secrets of a castle well hidden away. The Journal.[2]
↑ Froissart, 1910.[3]
Froissart, J. (1910). "The Battle of Otterburn." The Chronicles of Froissart. John Bourchier, Lord Berners, translator. Harvard Classics. NY: P. F. Collier & Son Company. Fordham.edu.
↑ Ogle (1902), states, "In 1388, James, earl of Douglas, suddenly entered England and advanced as far as Brancepeth in Durham. On returning he lay three days before Newcastle, during which several skirmishes took place. The Scots then marched to Ponteland, took the castle there and then marched on to Otterbum where they encamped and entrenched themselves.
The English, under Sir Henry Percy ... Hotspur, after a forced march of thirty-six hours, attacked them on the 19th of August; Sir Henry had divided his forces into two parts, one was to attack, and the other, under Sir Alaurice, called Sir Maw with the Red Mane, and Sir Robert Ogle, was to chase. Just however, as the English had carelessly thought they had gained a victory they were charged by the earl of Douglas, who fell, but the Scots rallying defeated the English, Sir Henry Percy and his brother, Sir Robert Ogle, and many others being taken prisoners," (p. 40).
↑ 13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 13.4 13.5 Burke, J. (1831). A General and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerages of England, Ireland, and Scotland, Extinct, Dormant, and in Abeyance ... England. London: H. Colburn & R. Bentley. Google Books. Web. 12 Jan. 2014.better citation needed
CAUTION: Burke (1831), inserts a generation, making Helen Bertram the grandmother of her son, Robert Ogle (1351-1409/10).
↑ for details about grandfather's career and father's death, see: Given-Wilson, C. (2002). Fourteenth Century England, 2, p. 26. Boydell Press. Google Books.
But note that Robert Ogle's (d. 1355) only known brother Thomas, was living 1364. It was Robert's uncle Sir Alexander Ogle, cpt. of Berwick, who was slain in the fight.
↑ Coulson, C. (2004). Castles in Medieval Society: Fortresses in England, France, and Ireland in the Central Middle Ages, p. 377. Oxford University Press. Google Books.
↑ "Inq. pm. of David Holgrave, Northumberland," (1405, August 29). E-CPIM 18-1032. Inquisitions Post-Mortem. Mapping the Medieval Countryside. http://www.inquisitionspostmortem.ac.uk/browse/inquisitions/
↑ "Testamentum Roberti Ogill militis," (1835). Wills and Inventories Illustrative of the History, Manners, Language, Statistics: &c., of the Northern Counties of England, from the Eleventh Century Downwards, 2, pp. 47 -48. Surtees Society. Durham: J.B. Nichols and Son. Google Books.[4]
Will.[5]
↑ [6][7]
↑ 19.0 19.1 Bertram, John (d.1450), of Bothal, Northumb." HOP. Web. 24 Jan. 2014. [8]
↑ [9]
↑ 21.0 21.1 Wright, A. B. (1823). An Essay towards a History of Hexham ... Illustrating Its Ancient and Its Present State, Civil and Ecclesiastical Economy, Antiquities and Statistics: With Descriptive Sketches of the Scenery and Natural History of the Neighbourhood. Alnwick: W. Davison. Google Books. Web. 23 Jan. 2014.better citation needed
CAUTION: Wright (1823), inserts a generation, making Helen Bertram the grandmother of her son, Robert Ogle (1351-1409/10).
↑ Wright (1823), notes a Hexham tomb inscription that states Robert died on All Saints Eve in 1404 ... based on the O.S. calendar. It also says that Robert was Helen's son.
↑ Hodgson, J. & Hodgson-Hinde, J. (1832). A History of Northumberland in Three Parts: Part 2. Vol. 2. E. Walker. Google Books.
↑ Roskell, J.S., Clark, L. & Rawcliffe, C. (1993). "Ogle, Sir Robert (c.1370-1436), of Ogle, Northumb.," in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421. HOP. Web.
See Also...
Brooks, D.J.B. (2015). "Tales of the Northumberland Ogles." The Ogle Genealogist Vol. 36 (pp. 13-26). Ogle/Ogles Family Association. www.ogles.org. Print.[10]
- [source4071149157] Robert Ogle, "Find A Grave Index", (Media: Website / URL).
Name Robert Ogle
Death Date 31 Oct 1410
Event Type Burial
Event Date 1410
Event Place Hexham, Northumberland Unitary Authority, Northumberland, England
Event Place (Original) Hexham, Northumberland Unitary Authority, Northumberland, England
Cemetery Hexham Abbey
Photograph Included N
"Find A Grave Index," database, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QV28-L9ND : 10 June 2020), Robert Ogle, 1410; Burial, , ; citing record ID , Find a Grave, http://www.findagrave.com.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/69231588/robert-ogle
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