de Sackville, Robert 1a 2a

Birth Name de Sackville, Robert
Gender male
Age at Death about 94 years

Events

Event Date Place Description Sources
Birth about 1060 England   3
Death about 1154     3

Age: 94y

Source References

  1. Robert (Sackville) de Sackville (abt. 1070 - abt. 1160), WikiTree
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        Robert de Sackville formerly Sackville
        Born about 1070 in Maldon, Essex, Englandmap
        Son of Herbrand (Sackville) de Sackville and [mother unknown]
        Brother of William (Sackville) de Sackville
        [spouse(s) unknown]
        DESCENDANTS descendants
        Father of Jordan Sackville
        Died about 1160 at about age 90 in Neyland, Pembrokeshire, Walesmap

        Profile last modified 4 Aug 2016 | Created 25 Jul 2014

        Biography
        Round:

        The first known Sackville of Bergholt and Bures is Robert, the youngest of the three [Jordan, William and Robert], who lived about the time of Henry I. and Stephen. This Robert became a monk in St. John's Abbey, Colchester, and the price he paid for his admission was his manor of Wickham, Suffolk, which he bestowed upon the abbey in the presence and by the permission of King Stephen's son and heir, count Eustace.[1] From the confirmation of his son Jordan we learn that Robert's gift was made with the consent of his wife, Letitia, and of his sons and heirs (filiorum et heredum), Jordan and Stephen, a formula which suggests that he held Wickham in right of his wife. Robert was also a benefactor to St. Botolph's Priory, Colchester, to which he gave land at Fordham.[2] When King Stephen, before his accession, founded Furness abbey in 1127, as lord of the honour of Lancaster, this Robert was a witness to the foundation charter,[3] and the Stephen de "Saukevill" who held Mendham (Suffolk) of that honour in 1175-1181, was just possibly his son.
        Robert had apparently acted at one time as dapifer to Stephen, for he so attests a charter of his as count of Mortain, concerning Winchester,[4] and he subsequently attested a charter of his as king, at Rouen in 1137, his name then appearing as Robert " de Sauquevilla,"[5] and others at Colchester and at Ipswich.[6] But the first definite mention of Robert in connection with his future king is in 1120, when, after the disaster of the "White Ship," the garrison of Mortain, we read, were specially conspicuous in searching along the coast for the bodies of the drowned, because almost all the barons and best knights of the comte had been lost. Count Stephen himself with Robert de Sackville (Salcavilla) and another lord alone escaped.[7]

        Keats-Rohan:

        Son of Herbran and brother of Jordan de Sackville (Ord. Vit., iii, 256), tenant of Burgholt and Bures in Essex. Intimate of King Stephen, he may have been the Robert who was steward of English lands of the honour of Bolourgne (see RRAN iii, no. 234 note). He married Letitia, by whom he had three sons, Jordan, Stephen and Nigel (Cart. Colchester i, 131). He became a monk of Colchester shortly before 1153, endowed with Wickham, property that may have come to him through his wife, who was possibly a member of the Glanville family (Round, 'The Essex Sackvilles' Arch. Jour. 64).
        [Basic primary documents:] RRAN III, nos 229-32, 234-35, 327, 550; Pipe Roll 31 Henry I, 71-ss; Stenton English Feudalism, App., no. 10
        Collins (the connection to Richard I seems impossible, but the rest matches the above to a large extent):

        The issue male of the said Sir William de Sackville thus expiring, Sir Robert de Sackvill, 3d son of Herbrand, continued the line, and is the direct ancestor to his Grace the present Duke of Dorset. He was the 1st of the witnesses to a charter of King Stephen[8], whilst he was but Earl of Morteign, wherein he gave the church of Lille-church to the monks of St. John of Colchester ; and his name is there wrote Robertus de Salkavilla. Of this Robert it is related,[9] that being beyond the seas, and purposing to come to England with the children of Henry I. it so chanced that the Earl of Morteign, when they should have weighed anchor and put to sea, was, on a sudden, troubled with a looseness in his body, and thereupon he left the ship and went ashore, together with two Knights, Sir Robert de Sackvill, and Walter, who by that means were preserv’d, the rest being no sooner at sea, but the ship wrecked on November 26, 1 1 19, and they all perished, except one, a butcher, which was occasioned by the excessive drinking of the mariners on board. This Sir Robert Sackvill, that fame year, 20 Hen. I[10], held the manors of Bergholt, Bures on the hill, and Alfemunston, in Essex, also the manors of Rishangel, Wytham, Melys, Clopton, Briswood, Coton, Drockford, Rudham, Fornham, Faltham, and Wickham, in Suffolk ; by the service of one Knight's fee of the honour of Eye ; and was also seised of another fee in Mendham, in the fame county, as a plea in 12 Hen. III. shews[11]. He was with King Richard I. in his expedition to Jerusalem,[12] as appears by these old rhymes :
        King Richard the first with good entent
        To that city of Jafes went,
        On morroe he sent after Robert Sakevile
        And Sir William de Watervile,
        Sire Hubert and Sir Robert of Turnham,
        Sire Bertram Braundes and John de St. John.
        Goth he sent to the Soundan, -
        And Sey my selfe a yen thriffty man.
        In the feild y wole with him fight
        For to doe yeme Godes right, &c.
        At length beholding the calamity of the state in the reign of King Stephen, and thinking it to time to leave off all thought of secular affairs, he professed himself a monk[13] in the monastery of St. John at Colchester, as his grant to that convent shews ; whereby he gave to the monks, there, for ever, his manor of Wickham, before-mentioned, with the consent of his sons and his wife, and by the advice of the Archbishop of Canterbury, and the Bishops of London and Norwich ; whereunto signed as witnesses, Earl Eustace, son of the King, Ingellus, Chancellor, Jordan de Salkavilla, and Stephen his brother, sons of the said Sir Robert Sackville.
        His wife was Lettice, daughter of Sir Henry Woodvil, Knt.[14] by whom he had also two other sons, Nigel, and Helias de Sackville, And probably Henry de Secheville, possessor of the manor of Foteston, in Leicestershire, was also his son, for in 10 Rich. I. William Brewere[15] proffered thirty marks to have seisin of that manor, which, as he alledged, the King gave him, and that he committed it to the custody of Henry de Seccheville, and offered to stand to the judgment of the King's court, if any impleaded him for the fame : whereupon Baldwin Giffard, and Jordan de Abernun, heirs of Henry de Seccheville, gave forty marks to have right against the said William Brewere, or an assize according to the judgment of the King’s court for the said manor.
        Bridgman:

        Sir Robert de Sackville, third son of Herbrand, succeeded his brother: he was the first of the witnesses to a charter of King Stephen's, whilst he was Earl of Morteign, wherein he gave the church of Lille Church to the monks of St. John of Colchester, and his name is there written Robertus de Salka villa. He was one of the retinue that accompanied William, the only legitimate son of Henry I. in Normandy, and was on the point of sailing to England with him, when the Earl of Morteign, at the time they were about to weigh anchor, was attacked with a bowel complaint, which compelled the Earl to return on shore, taking with him Sir Robert Sackville and another Knight. This providentially saved them from the fate of their companions, the ship being wrecked immediately upon its putting to sea, when the Prince; and one hundred and forty young Noblemen and Gentlemen of the best families of England and Normandy, were drowned. This happened November 26, 1119, and was occasioned by the drunken state of the seamen. This Sir Robert, affected by the disorders and misrule in the reign of King Stephen, quitted secular affairs, and professed himself a monk in the monastery of St. John of Colchester. His wife was Lettice, daughter of Sir Henry Woodville, Knight, by whom he had four sons, Jordan, Stephen, Nigel, and Helias de Sackville.
        Note that Lettice being a Woodville must be information from old pedigrees, but Keats-Rohan suggested she might be a Glanville, apparently based on her reading of Round. (Round does not appear to make this suggestion in any clear way.)

        Sources
        ↑ See Coalchester Cartulary, Roxburghe Club, 51, 113, 131, etc. In the charter of donation (of which the original is now in the Bodleian), the name appears as " Salchovilla," and in the relative documents it is " Saukevilla," but " Saucovilla " and " Sacavilla " in Stephen's confirmation of the gift.
        ↑ De feudo Roberti de Sakevill totam terram quam habent in Fordham (Charter of Richard I., 1189)
        ↑ Farrer's Lancashire Pipe Rolls, 302.
        ↑ Merton Cartulary, Cott. MS. Cleopatra, cvii, No. 138, fol. 77.
        ↑ See my [Round's] Calendar of Documents preserved in France. 373-4
        ↑ Colchester Cartulary, 33.
        ↑ Μunicip· s Moritolii prae ceteris suos obnixe qusesierunt, quia pene omnes illius comitatus barones et electi optionee pericrunt Solus comes . . . . et duo milites, Robertas de Saleavilla et Gualterius egressi sunt (Ord. Vit.). The French editor observes that Robert came, he thinks, from Sauqueville, not from the Mortain district, in which he is right. He adds that a charter of William Giffard, bishop of Winchester, is witnessed by him and his two elder brothers.
        ↑ cites Lib. Abb. de Colchester MS p.20
        ↑ cites Orderic Vitalis, Hist. Norm. p.70
        ↑ Antiq. Lib. Honoris de Eye penes
        ↑ 12 Henry III, rot. 9 m.12
        ↑ citation is to the History of Robert of Gloucester, but this Robert in the time of Richard I can not be the same one?
        ↑ Lib. Colchester ut antea
        ↑ ex stemmate, praed.
        ↑ Rot. II 2. 10
        J. H. Round, "Essex Sackvilles", Archaeological Journal 64. http://archaeologydataservice.ac.uk/archiveDS/archiveDownload?t=arch-1132-1/dissemination/pdf/064/064_217_226.pdf
        Keats-Rohan, Domesday Descendants, p.678
        Collins, Peerage of England, Vol 2, https://books.google.be/books?id=fmZUAAAAcAAJ&pg=PA261
        Bridgman, An Historical and Topographical Sketch of Knole, in Kent https://books.google.be/books?id=QmcQAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA62
        Phillips, Weber, Kirk & Staggs Families of the Pacific Northwest, by Jim Weber, rootsweb.com

         

  2. Sir Robert de Sackville, Knight, Geni
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        Robert de Sackville, Knight
        Birthdate: circa 1046
        Birthplace: Sauqueville, Seine-Maritime, Haute-Normandie, France
        Death: Braxted Neyland Bures Ad Montem, Essex, England
        Immediate Family:
        Son of Herbrand de Sauqueville and NN de Sauqueville
        Husband of Lettice de Woodville
        Father of Sir Jordan de Sackville, Knight; Nigel Sackville; Helias Sackville and Stephen Sackville
        Brother of Jordan de Sackville; William de Sackville; Havise de Sauqueville; Herbran de Sackville; William de Sackville and 1 other
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        Last Updated: April 28, 2022

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