| New VICE for Debian came out [message #250006] |
Tue, 22 April 2014 17:47  |
Andreas Kohlbach
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Today's update for Jessie brought me a shiny new VICE.
I cannot tell if it was VICE or an Xorg update. But now VICE can run in
true full screen again.
Plus there seems to be a new function to capture the mouse pointer. Not
sure if this is meant for a Commodore mouse device emulation. But at
least the system-pointer is hidden when it's activated.
Thanks guys from the VICE team. :-)
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| Re: New VICE for Debian came out [message #250382 is a reply to message #250006] |
Sat, 26 April 2014 17:36  |
Spiro Trikaliotis
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Hello Andreas,
On 2014-04-22, Andreas Kohlbach <apr14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> Thanks guys from the VICE team. :-)
You should thank Laszlo Boszormenyi instead, as he is the current
packages of VICE in Debian:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vice.html
He is trying his best to make VICE happen in Debian. I know, as I had
contact with him more than once trying to eliminate problems on Debian
while I was still with VICE.
The VICE team does not try in any way to make VICE happen on Debian
(which is not a bad thing per se, but you should know whom you have to
thank.)
Regards
Spiro
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| Re: New VICE for Debian came out [message #250383 is a reply to message #250382] |
Sat, 26 April 2014 18:55 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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Spiro Trikaliotis wrote on 26. April 2014:
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> On 2014-04-22, Andreas Kohlbach <apr14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks guys from the VICE team. :-)
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> You should thank Laszlo Boszormenyi instead, as he is the current
> packages of VICE in Debian:
Thanks you Laszlo. :-)
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vice.html
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> He is trying his best to make VICE happen in Debian. I know, as I had
> contact with him more than once trying to eliminate problems on Debian
> while I was still with VICE.
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> The VICE team does not try in any way to make VICE happen on Debian
> (which is not a bad thing per se, but you should know whom you have to
> thank.)
I didn't knew that. I suspected that those porting VICE to various Linux
distributions would be part of the VICE team. I even thought VICE is
developed on Linux and then ported to Windows, Mac and other ports.
The Wikipedia articles about VICE doesn't say much about this.
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| Re: New VICE for Debian came out [message #250426 is a reply to message #250383] |
Sun, 27 April 2014 14:19 |
Spiro Trikaliotis
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Hello Andreas,
On 2014-04-26, Andreas Kohlbach <apr14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> wrote:
> I didn't knew that. I suspected that those porting VICE to various Linux
> distributions would be part of the VICE team.
No one is porting VICE to the Linux distributions. VICE compiles
out-of-the-box on (most?) Linux distributions.
However, packaging VICE in order for people not having to compile VICE
themselves (which can be a pain if you do not know about the options and
what exactly you need), and adjusting to the distributions specific
attributes has to be done by others. Traditionally, these are not part
of the development team. In this case, it is Laszlo.
> I even thought VICE is
> developed on Linux and then ported to Windows, Mac and other ports.
That's right. However, developers seldom use pre-packaged binaries, as
they would not be able to make their own modifications. ;) (No, just
kidding)
> The Wikipedia articles about VICE doesn't say much about this.
That's absolutely normal and most probably the reason why noone mentions
this in Wikipedia or somewhere else. In most cases, the people who make
sure a program is part of a distribution are part of the distribution,
not part of the program team (which is called "upstream" in many cases).
In some cases, the people might be the same, but this is the exception.
Regards
Spiro
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| Re: New VICE for Debian came out [message #250565 is a reply to message #250501] |
Mon, 28 April 2014 19:45 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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Anssi Saari wrote on 28. April 2014:
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> Spiro Trikaliotis <usenet-200901@spiro.trikaliotis.net> writes:
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>> You should thank Laszlo Boszormenyi instead, as he is the current
>> packages of VICE in Debian:
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>> http://packages.qa.debian.org/v/vice.html
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> So did you stop packaging VICE for Debian? Your website seems to still
> indicate it should be available but I can't see it in your repo. Maybe
> you should update http://www.trikaliotis.net/debian or pretty please,
> build packages for Wheezy? Jessie release is still probably at least a
> year away as the freeze is planned for November...
I just got the Jessie release. That's why I started this thread. :-)
Part of my log from the 22nd this month:
| [UPGRADE] vice:i386 2.3.dfsg-4 -> 2.4.dfsg+2.4.6-1
I am not using Spiros' repository.
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| Re: New VICE for Debian came out [message #250649 is a reply to message #250588] |
Tue, 29 April 2014 20:54 |
Andreas Kohlbach
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Anssi Saari wrote on 29. April 2014:
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> Andreas Kohlbach <apr14.5.ankman@spamgourmet.com> writes:
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>> I just got the Jessie release. That's why I started this thread. :-)
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> I know. But you see, Debian Jessie is the current testing branch which
> doesn't have security updates. Usable and widely used to be sure but I
> prefer stable. Hence the question to Spiro.
Failing that, you can always add the testing or even Sid branch, but only
install certain packages (like VICE here) from those. Something like
apt-get install -t jessie-backports vice
(not tested!) might work, after adding the appropriate line to the
sources.list file.
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Andreas
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