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Subject: ISAWITISAWITISAWITISAWIT
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I just saw the search for Spock. Boy, what a movie. However, It brings
up some questions that were about to die on the net. In particular, the
cloaking device. It plays an important role, and apparently Kirk is the
only one in all of Starfleet command to expect that anyone might use it.
It is detectable by sensors, even if just as a distortion of space
around it (but their computer should have been able to analyze it if
properly instructed.) Thus one can only conclude that The  use of a
powerful defense like the cloaking device was not well known to the
rest of the fleet. Kirk, of course picks it up right away.
Anyway, the fact that the device *was* efectivly used blows away a lot
of the arguments recently used on the net. Oh yah, does a vulcan Bird of
Prey really only have twelve people?
There are a bunch more questions, but I'll wait with those.

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It does seem odd that if Kirk could see the distortion produced by the Cloaking
device that Star Fleet would not have all the ships computers programmed to
test and enhance the distortion area. They had a working device to play with 
and that could have saved the Grissom.

They said that there were twelve Klingons on the Scout Ship but I could only
remember seeing eleven. Does anyone know what happened to the last one? I can
account for:

 (6) Beamed over to the Enterprise

 (3) Beamed down to the Planet
     One was blasted by Kirk
     One was used by Spock to set a new outdoor Klingon Toss Record
     One (Krudge) was dropped into the lava river. (Since the effects
     were done by IL+M this was probably the same lava that was used
     in Indiana Jones and the Banquet of doom)

On the ship one was blasted for being to good of a shot (" But they said that
     Klingons don't take prisoners")

     One (Maltz) was captured

If anyone can account for the last one then please let me know.


John Eaton

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 > They said that there were twelve Klingons on the Scout Ship but I could only
 > remember seeing eleven. Does anyone know what happened to the last one? 

He was asleep in his bunk when they took over.  We expect him to wake up in
the ST IV and raise one hell of a stink. :-)

			"Whaddya mean, we're on Vulcan?"

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Well, wait a minute.  Who said there were 12 and when was it said.  I
don't quite remember.  I have a feeling that there might really have
been only 11 after whatsisname got nuked.  I'm not sure and maybe I
have my numbers off...I have to go see it again.

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   If I recall the number on the Klingon ship it was "ABOUT a dozen officers
  and men"

             Live long and prosper  GEORGE