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uok!dbiggers    Nov  9 18:48:00 1983

All this discussion about the speed of the Enterprise is pointless.
The show has never been a technological marvel.  I cite one
prominent example:  (by the way, I *know* all the episodes, but 
almost none of the titles, so I'll have to refer by description:
no flames please)

	 "[concerning the sound sensor]... With the computer we can
increase that capability on the order of ONE TO THE FOURTH POWER..."
                --Kirk, on trial for the death of Ben Finny

Also, remember that in the episodes a star ship computer could "pinpoint 
a lit match on the planet surface" but in the second movie, they couldn't
distinguish a "particle of animate matter caught in the matrix" from
Khan and his group of approx. thirty people?

So, let's lay off on the techno-garbage and enjoy the *drama*!! 


David Biggers
[duke!uok!dbiggers]

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uok!wjohnson    Nov  9 19:00:00 1983

How about that energy barrier at the edge of the galaxy?  Remember
all that talk about positive and negative energy?

W. Carey Johnson, Jr.
[duke!uok!wjohnson]

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uiucdcs!friedman    Nov 14 12:27:00 1983

Hear hear!  Biggers is right, and that needed to be said.

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     Star Trek, even in the good old days, never mde a whole lot 
of sense if one analized it to closely. For example, the episode where
Kirk had a double and Sulu and the landing party were freezing because
of a transporter malfunction. The whole episode (from a technology point
of view) centered on getting the transporter repaired to beam up Sulu and
company. Why, oh Why didnt they send down a shuttle-craft to pick them up?
Simple solution, no. Why then did the episode work, and become one of the
more popular ?   No one cared about the transporter, or Sulu , for that matter.
Everyone was wrapped up in the DRAMA of Kirk's inner (outer?) struggle with
his double. Don't take this * GREAT * show, and turn it into Battlestar
Galactica, or an equally inane SCI-FI. This show had (has) class !

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 I agree that only a little investigation into the credibility of
the stories shows very little thought by the writers.For example :

 The black/white contrast figures of commissioner Bele and his target
the (opposite white/black) political activist Lokai.How could this
hatred of the opposite race have happened?

      This is what Bele and his people look like

       BBBBBWWWWW
       BBBBBWWWWW
       BBBBBWWWWW
       BBBBBWWWWW
       BBBBBWWWWW
       BBBBBWWWWW

      Bele looks at Lokai and sees this image

       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB

      Bele looks at himself in a mirror and sees this image

       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB
       WWWWWBBBBB

    Any good excuses,I won't accept self-hate stuff either!

    I still love the shows even the weak ones


				Dave Peak(pyuhh!dxp)

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The recent ST novel "The Wounded Sky" by Diane Duane
has a nice escape from the "box" of having an energy
barrier around the galaxy.  It really wasn't a barrier,
but the leading edge of a "megabubble"--the wavefront of
leftover radiations and etc. from some wonderful cosmic
demolition derby.  Kirk & company encountered that
wavefront when they twice tried to leave the galaxy.
Probes since that time (in Duane's universe) showed
the true nature of the problem.

Not a bad method of getting out of one of the episodic
"traps."

BKC