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   Does anyone out there in netland have a copy of the "Turbo Pascal"
by Borland International as advertized in BYTE?  For the price, it
seems like a good deal to learn Pascal ($49.95), but if it's not
standard it 'aint much of a lesson (Except how NOT to buy a compiler).
Is Boralnd International a reputable company to deal with?
Forgive me if I seem skeptical, but I am wary about great claims and
small prices...

   Any information would be helpful (Diskette formats for CPM-80,
8087 support, etc.).

                    Thanks in advance!
                    Gary Brz...

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Read Microsystems magazine, Feb issue. They have a review of Turbo
Pascal. According to them it's quite a nice system. I'd look into it.

				Isaac Salzman.

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	Read Jerry's comments about Turbo in Feb. Byte.  By the way, I disagree
	with his gripes concerning Borland's policy of charging extra $100 for
	unlimited object code distribution.  Why didn't Jerry complain about
	Sorcim not letting people distribute freely the PRUN.COM file (i.e. the
	p-code interpreter that comes with Pascal/M)?  In a sense, this would
	equivalent, as linked object code is made in large part of library
	procedures.  Now, quite possibly the the general trend is toward automatic
	licensing of compiler's output.  I only think that Jerry's flames were
	exagerated.
	--Ed Howorka.

Excuse me, but I *thoroughly* agree with Jerry's complaints about the
$100 fee.  A compiler or interpreter is a tool.  If I can't use it as
one without forking over extra money to the providers of the tool,
it's totally useless to me.  Such a charge means that I AUTOMATICALLY
have to add the charge to my product;  it's not so bad with a one-time
unlimited fee, but is nevertheless annoying enough that I would NEVER
use such a tool for production work.  (Never mind that I wouldn't
produce a marketable product in PASCAL in the first place...) And often
such a charge is added on a per-unit distribution basis!  I refuse
to encourage practices in any way whatsoever, and I encourage others
to do likewise.

				Dave Ihnat
				ihuxx!ignatz

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No, but I *hear* that Turbo was actually written in Sweden, and is sold
in Europe as COMPAS Pascal.  I think Phillipe Kahn is >just< (:-)
a smart, savvy, marketeer who knows a good thing when he sees it.

No, I have no rumors about the reputed Turbo C or Turbo Modula, or where
they're being done.  How 'bout you, out there?

%Walt

Opinions are my own, but I might deny every saying them if asked.
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The is a good biography/interview of Kahn in the latest issue of Micro Conucopia.