Animation review and follies [message #143772] |
Sat, 28 September 1985 19:19 |
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Article-I.D.: carina.437
Posted: Sat Sep 28 19:19:52 1985
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((Gonna' build a mountain... in your living room!))
( remotely posted for a friend )
The Flanamation Scale
6 See it, record it, watch it several times a day. (Macross)
5 Record it, watch it while some dreck is playing on T.V. (Mighty Orbots)
4 Watch it if you happen to be in the room at the time. (Transformers)
3 Not offensive, not impressive. (Wheeled Warriors)
2 Dreck, but with some redeeming factors. (Thunder Cats)
1 Dreck. (He-Man)
Obviously there are several things above six, movies mostly. I'd
rate Black Cauldron at least eight. There are also shows that are
below one... My basis for zero is Fat Albert and the Cosby Kids, dreck
that is even worse than He-Man.
I am, for now, going to stick to the action-adventure series
that are now in syndication. All of which (With one exception that I
can think of) fall into the above rating system.
Normally I wouldn't bother trying to rate cartoons but several
things have entered the picture. World Events Productions has
released a set of programs featuring good artwork and some semblance
of a plot running through the entire series. (Voltron) Then Harmony
Gold released three Japanese series tied together. The first of which
is a thirty-six episode series originally entitled Macross. (Robotech)
This not only combines the best Voltron has to offer with character
building and plot that would rival any American comic book. I just
want those interested to know that there is more than dreck out there.
I intend to post this weekly and review at least two series in
each article. I'll also review the Voltrons (Voltage 5, and Go Lions.
Has any one seen Voltron II? It's the one with six arms.) separately.
I'm going to break up Robotech into its component parts. (Macross,
Southern Cross, and Mospeada)
Let's start with the best.
Macross-- This is it folks. It's the best combination of plot,
characterization, and good animation I have ever seen in a series that
was meant for television. It is about an alien spacecraft that
crashed on earth at the end of a world war. The humans adapted it for
human use. There was room enough because the ship was over three
quarters of a mile long.
The story centers around Rick Hunter, a young race pilot who
becomes a fighter pilot; Lisa Hayes, his superior officer whose
relationship with Rick did not get off to a good start; and Lynne
Minmay; a beautiful young ditz, Rick's girl friend, (sort of) and a
girl destined for a stardom that could only come to a beautiful young
ditz.
The story has a few minor flaws. Minmay's opening song is played
far too much. It is perfect for her debut, especially when you
consider her personality, but they play it over and over, always
calling it her new song. Over, and over, and over, and
AAAAUUUGGHHHHH! Towards the end the plot doesn't move quite as fast
as earlier in the series. And the word "Protoculture" gets very
confusing. (This is the fault of the translators. ed) First
protoculture is the old Zentraedi culture, then it is a power source,
then it is some kind of food, ah well. Also in an effort to tie in
the next series,(Southern Cross) Harmony Gold takes scenes form the
following series, (talking heads mostly) and stuck them into Macross.
All these faults are very minor and did not hurt the enjoyment of the
series.
The good points: This was the most popular animated series in
Japan for its year. The quality shows throughout. The translation,
with very few exceptions, was humorous, well dubbed, and intelligent.
I have heard that they used more sound effects than the original.
Harmony Gold treated it with the class it deserved. Here is one of
the best parts for all of you who watch Voltron and groan every time
some one uses the word "robot", or "escape ship": people die in
Macross!! No one flies "robot ships" and even characters bite it.
It's wonderful.
Wonderful also describes the whole series. Rated 6 on the
Flanamation Scale, it is called Robotech. The original animation is
by Tatsunoko.
As a post script to this review, if any of you get a chance to see the
Macross movie in the original Japanese, do so! If you know the basic
story the language gap is not so great. That might be rated a 8 1/2
to 9 on the Scale.
Lets end this posting with the worst.
Tranzor Z-- I never thought the Japanese could create trash on the
order of He-Man, but they did. It was by The Toei animation company.
the same people who did some of the Transformers episodes, all of the
Voltrons, Harlock, and Starblazers if any of you remember that. (if
any of you have Starblazers on videotape, have I got a trade for you!)
After seeing some of the Yamato (Starblazers) and Harlock movies some
of you may think that Toei can do no wrong. Not So! This is a story
about young Tommy Tavis and his little brother Toad who, upon learning
of their fathers death go to visit his old lab. Dear old dad was
working on an invention made out of the elusive metal Tranzor Z, the
strongest metal known to man. Of course the notes were lost and the
only thing that was made of the stuff was the most practical of
objects, a giant robot. Tranzor Z cannot be reproduced (except to
make repairs on the robot, or new accessories). The series does not
stop there, folks.
The villains are as well conceived as the hero. The ultimate
villain is Dr. Demon. He has Zarkon's Disease (See footnote) and
always must attack the Volcanic Institute (Tommy's home base). He
also has a magic wand that can create any bad robot (robeast) that the
episode needs. His second in command is Devleen, half man, half
woman, all ugly and just as effective as Lotor when it comes to
achieving his/her goal.
That's not all. Tommy is working for the Volcanic Institute. It
must be named for its location because the only thing I remember it
studying is the robots that attack it. One of the residents is
Jessica. Her robot is not made of Tranzor Z and therefore gets
trashed every episode she operates it. But not before she gets the
opportunity to fire her twin missiles that come out of (you guessed
it) her breasts. This is real class. Tommy is also a member of a
motorcycle gang, nice guys all although a bit deformed. The two
skinny ones I'll be damned if I can remember their names, but the fat
one with the lower jaw that comes six inches out from the rest of his
face is named Bobo. I remember this because he gets the Bobobot later
in the series. It, also not made of Tranzor Z, gets trashed every
time it appears.
By now you might feel that I was dissatisfied by this series. I
was surprised to find that there were somewhere in the area of twelve
voices. None of them are very good. The sound track is all
synthesizer and repetitive. The animation is technically shoddy, and
the cinematography is nonexistent.
The flaws... see above.
The good parts. Well, it had some good backgrounds.
As a parting shot, you might want to turn the sound down and come
up with your own script. This has given my friends and I loads of
laughs.
It rates 1 on the Flanamation Scale, and the original animation
is by Toei.
* This is a foot note.-- Beeep -- Zarkon's Disease is the condition
in which the villain is forced to attack the heros every episode,
forgoing all attention elsewhere. People with Zarkon's Disease tend
to be unproductive throughout the series.
Have fun,
Bill Flanagan
"You worry about the fighters. Let me worry about the tower."
(Jay Parks)
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noao!parks@seismo.ARPA :arpanet?
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Re: Animation review and follies [message #143792 is a reply to message #143772] |
Tue, 01 October 1985 17:17 |
mae
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Posted: Tue Oct 1 17:17:43 1985
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[color=blue]> quotes are from Bill Flanagan's review of animated tv shows, posted[/color]
by Jay Parks
I liked Bill's rating scale and I'm glad to find someone else interested
in quality animation.
[color=blue]> I'll also review the Voltrons (Voltage 5, and Go Lions. [/color]
That's Diarugger XV and Go Lion, unless you are watching something
different from what I have seen. Admittedly, I got disgusted and gave
up trying to watch it.
[color=blue]> Minmay's opening song is played [/color]
[color=blue]> far too much. It is perfect for her debut, especially when you [/color]
[color=blue]> consider her personality, but they play it over and over, always [/color]
[color=blue]> calling it her new song. Over, and over, and over, and [/color]
[color=blue]> AAAAUUUGGHHHHH![/color]
It's also a real pity they didn't find an actress who could sing.
Minmay had many more songs in the original Macross and actually had a
singing voice, though the character was still an annoying twit.
[color=blue]> And the word "Protoculture" gets very [/color]
[color=blue]> confusing. (This is the fault of the translators. ed)[/color]
It certainly is the fault of the "translators". The word protoculture
was actually used once in Macross - by the Zentradi leader to describe
what they considered the primitive society of the humans - a
"proto"-culture. Makes some sense that way. The term has no
relevance what so ever to the other two shows used in Robotech,
the "translators" just picked it up as a neat, meaningless term to throw
around and mean whatever they needed an unusual word for in each
episode.
[color=blue]> Harmony Gold treated it with the class it deserved. Here is one of [/color]
[color=blue]> the best parts for all of you who watch Voltron and groan every time [/color]
[color=blue]> some one uses the word "robot", or "escape ship": people die in [/color]
[color=blue]> Macross!! No one flies "robot ships" and even characters bite it. [/color]
Harmony Gold destroyed the music, something I find it very hard to
forgive them for, but they did do a more reasonable translation than
most. Of course, in the original series Diarugger XV and Go Lion,
people died as well. This is a very common form of censorship by
translation - StarBlazers is another big victim, there are especially
large holes in the last few episodes.
[color=blue]> Tranzor Z-- I never thought the Japanese could create trash on the [/color]
[color=blue]> order of He-Man, but they did. It was by The Toei animation company. [/color]
Though I agree with the low rating, this needs to be put in perspective.
Tranzor Z is Mazinger Z, the first major giant robot show of its kind,
made around 1970. It can not fairly be compared to recent shows like
Macross, that were made toward the end of the 15 year reign of giant
robot shows' popularity. The U.S. may have just discovered them, but,
according to a review in the latest C/FO newsletter of recent animated
shows currently in production for Japanese TV, giant robots are on their
way out over there.
Mary Anne Espenshade
...!{allegra, seismo}!umcp-cs!aplvax!mae
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Re: Re: Animation review and follies [message #148176 is a reply to message #143792] |
Sat, 05 October 1985 22:33 |
johnston
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Article-I.D.: sjuvax.2297
Posted: Sat Oct 5 22:33:04 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 10-Oct-85 06:45:46 EDT
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[ EAT THIS ONE TOO, ZENTRAEDEI SCUM !]
PLEASE NOTE : I am posting this to the net only because
personal mail sent out of St. Joseph's University seems to
be made of rubber - it never reaches its destination,
but instead bounces back to sender.
To Bill Flanagan, with most grateful acknowledgement to Jay Parks
and to Mary Anne Espenshade (I hope I spelled that right !), whom
I contacted last semester on this subject, and who I am
very happy to now know her net address after kicking myself
for months for not copying it down in the first place :
It's great to see some intelligent commentary on Japanese Animation
out there !!! I've been a big fan of a fairly wide variety of
Japanese anime productions for a little over a year now, and
I've managed to amass a fairly sizeable collection (about 50 or 60
hours worth) of productions in the original Japanese.
It all boils down to one major point : you can't get quality like
this in the states. It would cost too much and take too much time.
Heck, look at Disney....their 'Black Couldron' is fantastic,
but it took seven years and a few million dollars to produce !
While in Japan, excellent quality production for, of all things,
WEEKLY TELEVISION, is commonplace and expected by a critical,
mostly ADULT audience.
Here in Philadelphia, we're still waiting for ROBOTECH, which
is supposed to premier on a new UHF station in the area sometime
in October, but I have a copy of the main titles, and they combine
the three series' main titles beautifully, and Ulpio Minucci's
soundtrack is the most mature I've ever heard for what might be
regarded as as 'kiddie' program (though, I'm sure you'll agree,
ROBOTECH is as far from being strictly a kids show as was
Filmation's strong effort a few years back with the Star Trek
animated series).
If you want to talk on anything, PLEASE let me know.
Thanx for a bright spot in an otherwise uninteresting day !
P.S. Have you heard that Harmony Gold is vying for the rights to
adapt 'My Youth In Aracdia' and a select number of episodes
from the series 'Queen Millenia' ? The speculative title for this
combined series would be called 'Captain Harlock and The Queen of
a Thousand Years'. The series would be sold to stations as part
of Robotech's contract, so Harmony Gold hopes to have a different
episode of one of the five series on every weekday for a full year !!!
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The MACROSS, an alien battlefortress, is earth's only hope against the
deadly menace of the Zentraedi invasion forces. A brave crew of cadets
and the desperate residents of the destroyed Macross City battle to
keep earth alive. ----- ROBOTECH : THE MACROSS SAGA Begins.
John Johnston
St. Joseph's University
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Philadelphia, Pa.
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