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Date: Mon, 11-Feb-85 12:44:06 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb 11 12:44:06 1985
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Reply-To: cwayne@unm-cvax.UUCP (Chris Wayne)
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     What do you mean by worst episode?  Writing, direction, acting, overall, or
what?  I can take just about any one episode and show you what is "worst" with
it, then turn right around and show you what is "best" about it.  Granted, some
are not as good as others, but the good things that are in each episode, I
think, over shadows the bad things.  Ex.
 
                        "Turnabout Intruder"

              good                                        bad
              ----                                        ---

    A study of the dual-self                   Why wasn't the shuttlecraft used
    (evil vs good).                            to get sulu and party.
 

                        "The Omega Glory"

    What might have happened to                Some of the acting.  The likeness
    the USA and China in the aftermath         of "Omega" was too close to 
    of WWIII+.  Patriatism.  Kirk's speach     "Earth".
    at end of story, it was similar to what
    Samuel T. Cogley said in Cml.

                        
                        "City on the Edge of forever"

    Overall story.                             Did not stick too closely with
                                               Harlan Ellison's version.

                        "Alternative Factor"

    The study of alternate universes.          Lazarus-A kept falling down on 
                                               the job (so to speak).  The
                                               relationship between Masters and
                                               Lazarus-B was written out of the
                                               script.
 

etc., etc., etc...........................


So if your going to say that episode such and such is bad, please state why!
And while you do that try to find what might redeem it as a good episode as 
well.


                                       Chris Wayne @ UNM
                                       optimist in training
                                       (only because I can't spell pessimist)

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Date: Fri, 15-Feb-85 13:09:31 EST
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Posted: Fri Feb 15 13:09:31 1985
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 >  So if your going to say that episode such and such is bad, please state why!
 >  And while you do that try to find what might redeem it as a good episode as 
 >  well.
 >  
 >  
 >                                         Chris Wayne @ UNM
 >                                         optimist in training
 >                                         (only because I can't spell pessimist)

What is this... essay time???? Relax, this is not some metaphysical
discussion about religion. We're talking about a TV SHOW that most
of us enjoy, so don't get all bent out of shape...

					Dave Bloom
					Bell Labs, Holmdel

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Date: Fri, 15-Feb-85 02:57:21 EST
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Posted: Fri Feb 15 02:57:21 1985
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In article <242@unm-cvax.UUCP> cwayne@unm-cvax.UUCP (Chris Wayne) writes:
 >      What do you mean by worst episode?  Writing, direction, acting, overall, or
 > what?
...
 > So if your going to say that episode such and such is bad, please state why!
 > And while you do that try to find what might redeem it as a good episode as 
 > well.

Not everyone has detailed reasons why they think particular episodes are
best or worst.  I think most of us just don't like certain episodes very
much.  It has nothing to do with technical problems, they are just not
as enjoyable.  For example, I find "The Omega Glory" and "Friday's
Child" relatively boring.  I even acknowledge the technical merits of
"Balance of Terror," but I won't go out of my way to watch it.
Actually, I no longer watch the TV series much at all, although until
about five years ago I was an avid Trekker (I attended conventions and
collected posters and stuff); it isn't on at a convenient time in
Boston, and I have seen every episode several dozen times (I laugh every
time I read someone use 6 or 10 as an excuse).  However, I may start
watching some more, as I noticed when I watch "Charlie X" a few days ago
that the Boston station cuts out less than the New York station I did
most of my watching on.

Other least-enjoyable episodes:

"That Which Survives" (I think that's the title - the one with the Salt
Vampire).

The one with Dr Cory, Chapel's old flame, who builds an android copy of
Kirk.

It's probably not a coincidence that these are both early episodes.
They hadn't really developed the characters and their interactions, and
they didn't really know how they wanted their stories to go.  They were
overly dependent on the alien rather than the characters.
-- 
    Barry Margolin
    ARPA: barmar@MIT-Multics
    UUCP: ..!genrad!mit-eddie!barmar

Article-I.D.: topaz.2435
Posted: Fri Jun 28 18:23:07 1985
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 >>  No, the worst episode was the "Tears ..." where Kirk
 >> blah blah blah
 >  
 > I could never stand MIRI and I always liked GARRY SEVEN!!

Well, thanks to this scwewey emacs that I'm not used to, I can't send the
original message I was composing.  Anyhow, here's a calmer version.

I don't think anything is going to be resolved by saying that " episode X is
better than episode Y because ..."  What I mean is that this will only lead 
to endless bickering about certain points that will be forgotten over the
course of discussion.  I don't want to see articles titled 
"Re:Re:Re:Re:Kirk and the consumption of Warp Drive"  that have nothing
to do with Kirk or the Warp Engines other than the fact that Starfleet
awards the fastest ships to those captains who have the largest *things*.  
Let's not start that here, OK?

What I do ask as an alternative is that I'd like some adventurous soul
who is willing to hold a net.startrek opinion poll of the best and/or
worst ST episodes to step forward.  I would leap at the opportunity, but 
the Rutgers U. system administrators do not want the increased mail 
traffic here :-(.


ps- this has nothing to do with me liking the episodes mentioned, because
I don't.
-- 

					   Jonathan D. Trudel
					arpa:trudel@ru-blue.arpa
	 			uucp:{seismo,allegra,ihnp4}!topaz!trudel
		   	    "You can't fight in here, this is the WAR ROOM!"