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  • Digital Archaeology: Floppy Disk #10 – DM0910.DOC


    A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series:

    I found a number of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store a number of years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here.

    Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie who used to run the “Close Encounters” Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s.

    A specific definition of this SIG was found in a document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as ‘Close Encounters’, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.”

    This service was text based and was accessed via whatever terminal program you used on your computer to dial in to Delphi’s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. All of this is pre-internet stuff and I don’t know if there are any archives in existence today of what was on Delphi in the 1980s. In any case, much of this stuff would have been private at the time and probably wouldn’t be in such archives even if they existed.

    This post includes the contents of DM0910.DOC which is dated September 10th, 1985. I believe that ‘DM’ in this case stands for Direct Mail which appears to have been Delphi’s version of e-mail. This document contains several such emails from September 9th and 10th, 1985. There is a bit of overlap so some song lyrics are seen here that have been seen previously but there are also a few more emails between “Connie” and “Rod” (among others) including some poetry. Since this appears to have been a buffer capture of an online session, there was more than just an email reading session captured. At the end, there is a chat session with “Connie” and a new member of the SIG.

    See the previous post here.

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        #1           9-SEP-1985 12:09:28                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   poetry resend
    
    So  very  often  today songs are writen with little or no  continuity  to  the 
    lyrics,  the  lyrics are burried by the intensity of the beat or rhythm of the 
    music, but every so often a song 'makes it' that has the beauty that the one I 
    am sending has.
     
    There is a lot of background to why I am so affected by this song and some  of 
    that  might  have  even prevented my even hearing it but life has  grabbed  my 
    attention and caused me to find new beauty in places I might never have gone.
     
    Until recently I didn't listen to much music at all and CERTAINLY NOT  country 
    music  but  my life was affected by several people and after emerging  from  a 
    'cave' in which I was hiding I started hearing the words to songs,  seeing the 
    fantastic  things  life  has  to give,  and learned  the  importance  sharing, 
    feeling, and loving if life is to be worth living.
     
    I  hope that everyone that reads this knows already or will realize very  soon 
    exactly who they would recite or sing these words to and perhaps give them  to 
    that person as the 'flower' for that day!
     
    "You Decorated My Life"
      
    All my life was a paper, once plain, pure, and white
     
    'Til  you moved with your pen,  changing moods now and then,  'til the balance 
    was right
     
    Then you added some music, every note was is place
     
    And anybody could see all the changes in me, by the look on my face
     
     
    And you decorated my life. Created a world where dreams are a part
     
    And you decorated my life by painting your love all over my heart
     
    You decorated my life!
     
     
    Like a rhyme with no reason in an unfinished song
     
    There was no harmony, life meant nothing to me, until you came along
     
    And you brought out the colors. what a gentle surprise
     
    Now I'm able to see, all the things life can be, shining soft in your eyes
     
     
    And you decorated my life. Created a world where dreams are a part
     
    And you decorated my life,by painting your love all over my heart
     
    You decorated my life!
     
     
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
        #2           9-SEP-1985 17:31:35                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     JOHNMYSELF,CABUYS      
    Subj:   entry log change from insiders forum
    
     
    1263 9-SEP-11:59: SIG News
         Entry Log
         From: DAN          To: ALL
     
    The entry log ENTRY ALL function now only displays the most recent
    10 members who have entered the sig.  Anyone with a W, A, M, E, or
    D flag still gets the entire display.
     
    Dan
     
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
        #3          10-SEP-1985 01:48:44                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   IMPORTANT !!!
    
    My Beloved Darling Connie,
    
    I don't think I have ever poured out so much of me in writting as I do in
    the poem that follows.
    
    I sat up in my office at home and penned it in the past two hours
    
    I'm sorry to disturb you but it REALLY does mean that much to me !!
    
    Because of the effect on your effectiveness as sig manager I am leaving
    you the option of deleting the last verse if you choose but I do ask that
    you post it in the poetry section of the forum
    
    This poem is MINE and is authored for You!
    
    My Darling I just don't seem to be able to tell you enough how much I LOVE
    YOU !!!!
    
    I am sending the poem as the next message
    
    Love, 
    
    Rod
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
        #4          10-SEP-1985 01:52:30                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   MY Poem for YOU
    
    "From a Meeting On-line"
     
    I was living in my own private hideaway
     
    Then I logged onto Delphi one day
     
    There I noticed people talking and communicating on-line
     
    And I watched for months to see what I could find
     
     
    Then suddenly came some chats, meetings, and fantasies exchanged
     
    And without warning my life was changed
     
    What was just days before screens of readings
     
    Had become a rush of unexplainable feelings
     
     
    In a panic I made a telephone call
     
    To someone I hoped could explain all
     
    In just a couple of days I was standing at the doorway
     
    Where I hoped to find why I felt this way
     
     
    She came to the door, I went in, we spoke
     
    of what I felt and I asked if it were a joke
     
    I asked if these people on-line were just playing silly games
     
    Or are they real people with faces and names
     
     
    We talked some more, then went out to dine
     
    Little did we know this was our meeting in time
     
    How could I know that these searching questions
     
    Would lead me to such loving obsessions
     
     
    So I say to you that don't already know
     
    that life, via a computer, to you may show
     
    That what appears to be but a feeling on-line
     
    May begin a love, meant to be for all of time
     
     
    How could I have possibly known
     
    That such a beauty in life I could be shown
     
    And have this love of mine
     
    From a meeting on-line 
     
     
     
    I may be saying too much, and being too bold
     
    But I think I might burst if it isn't told
     
    This beautiful person that I tell you of
     
    This beautiful person I so deeply love
     
    This person that means so much to me
     
    Is known to all of you as Connie
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
        #5          10-SEP-1985 15:10:11                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   Let me know
    
    My Beloved Darling,
    
    I can hardly wait to see you again!
    
    I
    LOVE
    YOU 
    LOVE YOU!
    
    
    Please let me know what you would prefer to do with my poem to you!
    
    If you will please call me at my office "3260" at 6:00 pm
    
    Until then my darling!
    
    Love 
    
    Rod
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
        #6          10-SEP-1985 16:45:45                                        MAIL
    
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     BOS1A::RODM,CABUYS      
    Subj:   RE: Let me know
    
    Dear Rod,
    
    That poem is so beautiful that I can't find words to tell you what it means
    to me.
    
    I tried so very hard to get it posted in the database last night after you
    called but I kept screwing up the sysop functions. sigh.
    
    I plan to post it in the database soon as I send this mail.  
    
    ANd I will call as you asked!
    
    Love,
    Connie
    
    P.S.  I took a printout of it to work and let Ann read it.  She was very
    impressed! <gsmile> 
    
    I read it to Peggy over the phone a little while ago too!  I
    There is no way to keep such a thing of beauty like this to myself and it is
    as beautiful to me as our love!
    
    I love you!
    
    
    
    MAIL> 
    
    No more messages
    
    
    MAIL> our primary emphasis is on relationships, with a lot of discussion about sexual relationships.
    .Connie> our primary emphasis is on relationships, with a lot of discussion
      about sexual relationships.
    we've found it /w
    JJM> sounds good to me...lets    "talk"
    
    GROUP LIST:   17:18:58
    1)  1
          JJM, Connie
     - idle
    AVAILABLE LIST: () = in conf
       (CABUYS), (JJM)
    ------ [2 in this area]
    and what would you liek ke to "talk " about? 
    .Connie> and what would you like to "talk" about?
    /w jjm
    
    NAME      :
    AGE       : 37
    COMPUTERS : IBM-PC
    QUOTES    : "IT CAN ALWAYS BE WORSE"
    SEX       : I HAVE TO WARN YOU I'M MARRIED BUT IF YOU'RE STILL
       INTERESTED!!!!!!!!!!!!
    TERM-SOFT : GET ORGANIZED
    TRAVEL    : I LOVE TO ... WHERE DO YOU WANT TO GO??
    ZODIAC    : TAURUS
    (aww, your profile doesn't give you r first name)
    JJM> first ..my name is  jay  may 1947..married   3 kids
    .Connie> (aww, your profile doesn't give your first name)
    Hello Jay and welcome to Close ENcounters!
    JJM> i did though
    .Connie> Hello Jay and welcome to Close ENcounters!
    yup! you did.
    .Connie> yup! you did.
    JJM> great to be here
    how long have you been using Delphi?
    .Connie> how long have you been using Delphi?
    JJM> 3 months or so
    have you or do you use any other networks/?
    .Connie> have you or do you use any other networks?
    JJM> does this ever get more interesting than the reg conf
    all depends on what you are looking for.
    .Connie> all depends on what you are looking for.
    if you are looking for serious dicussionif you are looking for serious discussions with other adults, we have a number of conferences likee that. if you are looking for pufun only, that is sometimes available
    JJM> no...like what ones are interesting?
    .Connie> if you are looking for serious discussions with other adults, we have a
    
      number of conferences like that. if you are looking for fun only, that is
      sometimes available
    JJM> im not sure whats avail...what have you found here/
    I came to Delphi from CompuServe back last August.  my partner and I have been working to establish this sig on CIS prior to that.
    JJM> serios is great ...but  fun would be nice
    .Connie> I came to Delphi from CompuServe back last August.  my partner and I
      have been working to establish this sig on CIS prior to that.
    and what is fun to you, Jay?
    .Connie> and what is fun to you, Jay?
    JJM> have you had a lot of response?
    response is growing and iI expect it will continue.
    .Connie> response is growing and I expect it will continue.
    JJM> seems like a great idea
    well it's a profitable, workable idea, but many people come here with the wrong impression and that sometimes presents slight problems but if they stay around long enough to get to know ius and what's going on here, usually they like it.
    JJM> re fun...that is a loaded question...could mean a number of things!!!!
    .Connie> well it's a profitable, workable idea, but many people come here with
      the wrong impression and that sometimes presents slight problems but if they
      stay around long enough to get to know us and what's going on here, usually
      they like it.
    I know it could mean that! <grin> it was a baited question!
    .Connie> I know it could mean that! <grin> it was a baited question!
    JJM> well im here to stay so well se what happens...
    JJM> did i take the BAIT
    not yet! but you will, I suspect! <smile>
    .Connie> not yet! but you will, I suspect! <smile>
    JJM> TEMPT ME!!!!!
    give me time! <giggle> you'll find this sig much like the analog world - there is a certain introduction and 'flirtation' that takes place first! <smile>
    .Connie> give me time! <giggle> you'll find this sig much like the analog world
      - there is a certain introduction and 'flirtation' that takes place first!
      <smile>
    JJM> you there?
    most of us are very awaremost of us in this sig are very aware of the impact that a seemlinglyinglyu harmless on line flitatrtation hcan have on one's .
    JJM> im smiling...who have you meet interesting on this?
    JJM> other than me   9ha ha )
    .Connie> most of us in this sig are very aware of the impact that a seemingly
      harmless on line flirtation can have on one.
    (darn! I wislh control keys were working correctly!)
    .Connie> (darn! I wish control keys were working correctly!)
    everyone JJM> like what impact????
    I meet on this is interesting! but I have met some who are more interesting than others!
    .Connie> everyone I meet on this is interesting! but I have met some who are
      more interesting than others!
    re: impact - suppose your spouse canught you in a "hot chat" with someone on line? would she be jealous?
    JJM> how long has this ser. been around?
    .Connie> re: impact - suppose your spouse caught you in a "hot chat" with
      someone on line? would she be jealous?
    or suppose you got really "involved" with someone on line and wanted to meet office line in hops oes of something more "interesting"?
    JJM> surprisingly....no
    JJM> is that good or bad
    .Connie> or suppose you got really "involved" with someone on line and wanted to
    
      meet off line in hopes of something more "interesting"?
    it's netiither good nor bad - but with some people it has become a major problem. we are here to help or to just listen or whatever - since we've been there before.
    JJM> lets cross that bridge when..etc. etc.
    .Connie> it's neither good nor bad - but with some people it has become a major
      problem. we are here to help or to just listen or whatever - since we've been
      there before.
    Jay, I'm just posing possibilities here to point out a little of what can happen. in my case, I ended up divorcing my ed.
    JJM> you ever had any problems...like that i mean
    .Connie> Jay, I'm just posing possibilities here to point out a little of what
      can happen. in my case, I ended up divorced.
    I've had problems like you can't imagine!
    .Connie> I've had problems like you can't imagine!
    and I ham a much stronger, confident peerson for having resolved most of those problems. wish I could say that about everyone I've heard from tho.
    JJM> WOW...THAT GOT ME!!!!!!
    .Connie> and I am a much stronger, confident person for having resolved most of
      those problems. wish I could say that about everyone I've heard from tho.
    JJM> now ill be more serious...you made me a believer!!
    my ex went into a jealous tirade when I was "caught" that he threatened to destroy the computer with a baseball bat.
    .Connie> my ex went into a jealous tirade when I was "caught" that he threatened
    
      to destroy the computer with a baseball bat.
    JJM> you mean this type of thing contributed to your divorce?
    yes. he couldnt cope with my meetbeing on line, being involved in "hot chats" if I was interested, in fact he hated this entire thing. I was suppose to be his "possesion" - and outside contact with others was not needed.
    JJM> did you ever meat the person you were chatting with?
    .Connie> yes. he couldnt cope with my mbeing on line, being involved in "hot
      chats" if I was interested, in fact he hated this entire thing. I was suppose
      to be his "possesion" - and outside contact with others was not needed.
    I've met several of them.
    .Connie> I've met several of them.
    and yes (presuming the next question) nearly all /w
    
    GROUP LIST:   17:36:05
    1)  1
          JJM, Connie
     - idle
    AVAILABLE LIST: () = in conf
       (CABUYS), (JJM)
    ------ [2 in this area]
    JJM> so these hot chat really do get HOT?
    they can. depends on moods, personalities, whatever, just like athe analog world.
    .Connie> they can. depends on moods, personalities, whatever, just like the
      analog world.
    only it's much 'safer' physically here.
    .Connie> only it's much 'safer' physically here.
    and youJJM> ANY KIDS?
     get to know the other person much faster!
    .Connie> and you get to know the other person much faster!
    yes, one 15 year old son.
    .Connie> yes, one 15 year old son.
    JJM> WHAT COLOR EYES?
    btrobrown. yours?
    .Connie> brown. yours?
    JJM> GREEN
    JJM> what do you like to do other than play with this?
    between my job and this, tbetween my job and this and the time I spent d with my lover, there's not much time for anything else!
    .Connie> between my job and this and the time I spend with my lover, there's not
    
      much time for anything else!
    JJM> so this isnt full time job?
    no - tho I sometimes wish it were and often it feels like it is.
    .Connie> no - tho I sometimes wish it were and often it feels like it is.
    JJM> when are yo usually on?
    usually around 9 pm if the system is working as it should - which is a big question of late! sigh.
    .Connie> usually around 9 pm if the system is working as it should - which is a
      big question of late! sigh.
    JJM> ive noticed!!
    well it's only growing pains on Delphi's part - and that takes time and patience to overcome.
    .Connie> well it's only growing pains on Delphi's part - and that takes time and
    
      patience to overcome.
    JJM> im usually only here daytimes...office machine  ya know
    wish I could get on from the office - we have the capability but I jhuust never have the time while there.
    .Connie> wish I could get on from the office - we have the capability but I just
    
      never have the time while there.
    I suspect I'd spend less thiime in regular work and more time here if there wjust as well tho - I'd spend more time here and less thime working!
    JJM> so lifes better since the divorce?
    .Connie> just as well tho - I'd spend more time here and less time working!
    much better!
    .Connie> much better!
    JJM> how longs it been?
    about 15 months.
    .Connie> about 15 months.
    JJM> getting easier?
    well there are days when it's not so easy - but that's normal for everyone, I think. most ot f the time, it's just what I wantthere are days when it's not so easy but that's pretty normal, I think.
    .Connie> there are days when it's not so easy but that's pretty normal, I think.
    
    JJM> you there?
    yes, still here. having some problems with control keys and such.
    .Connie> yes, still here. having some problems with control keys and such.
    JJM> it must have been tough at first
    it was - but then I've been the fsupport, financially and otherwise, of the family for some time. and a lot of phsychotherapy helped - as well as the understanding of some very special friends.
    JJM> was the computer the big problem or an actual "other" person
    .Connie> it was - but then I've been the support, financially and otherwise, of
      the family for some time. and a lot of psychotherapy helped - as well as the
      understanding of some very special friends.
    the computer managed to bring a lot of problems that we'd avoided over the years to the surface - mostly because I gained confidence in myself by talking to iothers on lines.
    .Connie> the computer managed to bring a lot of problems that we'd avoided over
      the years to the surface - mostly because I gained confidence in myself by
      talking to others on line.
    JJM> by the way if im getting to personal shut me up! ok!!??
    ok - no problem so far. I tend to "spill my life sotrytory" if allowed!
    .Connie> ok - no problem so far. I tend to "spill my life story" if allowed!
    JJM> confidence is a strange thing..it can come and go..depending on the
      situation
    most definitely! but you put someone in a situation where over a period of 15 years they are constantly cut down - they end up with no confidence at all.
    JJM> your allowed...this is like a on line "shrink" from what i can see
    .Connie> most definitely! but you put someone in a situation where over a period
    
      of 15 years they are constantly cut down - they end up with no confidence at
      all.
    it's sort of like that. it's more like an "encounter" group where we can all share out thoughts and feelings without feeaar of ridicule. and we try to limit membership to adults (tho that's touhgh.)
    JJM> tell me about it!!
    JJM> i think i understand you compleatly
    .Connie> it's sort of like that. it's more like an "encounter" group where we
      can all share out thoughts and feelings without fear of ridicule. and we try
      to limit membership to adults (tho that's tough.)
    there are days when *I* don't understand me completely ! <grin>
    .Connie> there are days when *I* don't understand me completely! <grin>
    but I know what you wmean.
    .Connie> but I know what you mean.
    /w
    
    GROUP LIST:   17:49:35
    1)  1
          JJM, Connie
     - idle
    AVAILABLE LIST: () = in conf
       (CABUYS), (JJM)
    ------ [2 in this area]
    JJM> when you mention being cut down...did you ever really believe it or did you
    
      really belive in yourself all along?
    that's not so easy to answer. I've found that I do much better if I have someone encouraging me on instead of cutting me down for what I want to accomplish. there'at's the big difference.
    .Connie> that's not so easy to answer. I've found that I do much better if I
      have someone encouraging me on instead of cutting me down for what I want to
      accomplish. that's the big difference.
    JJM> 15 years is a long time...it must have taken some real soul searching to
      make that move
    oh yes! took a long time to decide to do it and then a while longer to actually accomplish it.
    JJM> i would think so
    .Connie> oh yes! took a long time to decide to do it and then a while longer to
      actually accomplish it.
    JJM> did your ex ever have anything to really be jealous about..or was it all in
    
      his mind?
    it started out all in his mind but over the years when I was accused of something I did not do, I figured I might as well do. price would be the same anyway.
    .Connie> it started out all in his mind but over the years when I was accused of
    
      something I did not do, I figured I might as well do. price would be the same
      anyway.
    I put up with his jealousy for nearly 4 years he had always been very jealous but it got worse especially the last 2 years were were married.
    JJM> interesting
    .Connie> he had always been very jealous but it got worse especially the last 2
      years we were married.
    JJM> did you get the attention you felt you should from him..other than
      jealousy?
    sure - I sure - I got attention from himnot always. tho I didn't always commhunicate with him that what my needs were.
    .Connie> not always. tho I didn't always communicate with him what my needs
      were.
    JJM> i guess jealousy is good to a point..but must be closly contained
    /t
    
    10-SEP-1985 17:55:19
    75 minutes (1h 14m 32s)
    JJM> youve got to communicate...the most important thing there is!
    I know - but the other person has to listen too. not always the easiest thing to communicate to another.
    JJM> feelings and people get lost without it
    .Connie> I know - but the other person has to listen too. not always the easiest
    
      thing to communicate to another.
    JJM> no its not ...youve got to work at it ...but people are to lazy
    
    

  • Digital Archaeology: Codex (Floppy Disk) #10 (part 16)


    A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series:

    I found a number of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store a number of years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here.

    Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie who used to run the “Close Encounters” Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s.

    A specific definition of this SIG was found in a document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as ‘Close Encounters’, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.”

    This service was text based and was accessed via whatever terminal program you used on your computer to dial in to Delphi’s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. All of this is pre-internet stuff and I don’t know if there are any archives in existence today of what was on Delphi in the 1980s. In any case, much of this stuff would have been private at the time and probably wouldn’t be in such archives even if they existed.

    This post includes the contents of SEXPOS2.DOC dated October 26th, 1985. This appears to be a chat log from a group chat about sexual positions.

    See the previous post here.

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    SEXPOS2.DOC
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     * * * * * * * * * * dco106.oct - sexual positions part two * * * * * * * * *
     ** JOEY just joined CLE (2 members now) **
     .Myself> howdy guy
     JOEY> Hi John
     JOEY> How ru?
     sok here - u?
     .Myself> sok here - u?
     JOEY> Fine.
     JOEY> I got the message about the flags. But, how do you set them?
     the flags are already set
     .Myself> the flags are already set
     you need do nothing about that
     .Myself> you need do nothing about that
     JOEY> Oh, ok.
     also, you wouldn't be able to set them anyway since u don't have the 'm'
     .Myself> also, you wouldn't be able to set them anyway since u don't have the
       'm'
     flag which allows access to the membership system.
     .Myself> flag which allows access to the membership system.
     JOEY> oh.
     your time is free
     .Myself> your time is free
     and thus you will not be billed for time in this sig.
     JOEY> Should be a lot of people on here tonight.
     .Myself> and thus you will not be billed for time in this sig.
     i hope so.
     .Myself> i hope so.
     /w
     
     GROUP LIST:   21:29:13
     4)  CLE
           Myself, JOEY
      - idle
     AVAILABLE LIST: () = in conf
        DIRIGO, (JOEY), (JOHNMYSELF)
     ------ [3 in this area]
     /s dirigo hi - long time no c.
     JOEY> Yes, Connie explained that.
     ok
     .Myself> ok
     nuf said
     .Myself> nuf said
     JOEY> The contest sounds interesting.
     should be - expect to have first one up tomorrow
     .Myself> should be - expect to have first one up tomorrow
     JOEY> But, we are not eligible?
     not really Joey
     .Myself> not really Joey
     Connie and I  have the questions and answers
     JOEY> I didn't think so. sok.
     .Myself> Connie and I  have the questions and answers
     and you are already free
     .Myself> and you are already free
     plus, it makes no sense for sig managers to participate in their promotionals
     .Myself> plus, it makes no sense for sig managers to participate in their
       promotionals
     JOEY> True.
     We have to function above criticism in this thing.  Just like real official
     companies running their contests
     .Myself> We have to function above criticism in this thing.  Just like real
       official
     .Myself> companies running their contests
     you know the usual messages - employees and families etc.
     .Myself> you know the usual messages - employees and families etc.
     JOEY> Well, I thought so. We run contests and have the same rules.
     exactly.
     .Myself> exactly.
     now since ur an employee <sic> tote that barge ad nauseum <grin>
     .Myself> now since ur an employee <sic> tote that barge ad nauseum <grin>
     JOEY> Ok. (smile.)
     and don't forget to lift that bale too.
     .Myself> and don't forget to lift that bale too.
     JOEY> And put your shoulder to grindstone.
     in this case ur shoulder is the grindstone <hahaha>
     .Myself> in this case ur shoulder is the grindstone <hahaha>
     
     ** Marti just joined CLE (3 members now) **
     well lookee here
     JOEY> Hi Marti!
     .Myself> well lookee here
     .Marti> Hi Joey!
     /s marti thot u'ld never get ur bill paid so you could re-join us
     .Marti> Hi John...hugs
     JOEY> We should have a new member here, tonight.
     
     
     ILLUSION>> who said it was paid <sigh>
     /s marti well I can dream can't I?
     JOEY> LOOP (Jane)
     
     
     ILLUSION>> yes...we all dream
     we should have plenty of new members here <I hope> someday
     .Marti> is connie coming?
     .Myself> we should have plenty of new members here <I hope> someday
     not even breathing hard marti. <grin>
     .Myself> not even breathing hard marti. <grin>
     /w
     
     GROUP LIST:   21:36:39
     4)  CLE
           Myself, JOEY, Marti
      - idle
     AVAILABLE LIST: () = in conf
        (ILLUSION), DIRIGO, (JOEY), (JOHNMYSELF)
     ------ [4 in this area]
     .Marti> hahaha....some people never change!
     JOEY> I knew he would say that.
     marti==>>what do u thnk of our new contest?
     .Myself> marti==>>what do u thnk of our new contest?
     .Marti> is connie joining us tonight <let's see him do something to that>
     Connie will be present this evening but I doubt that there will be any "joining"
     
     .Marti> sounds like fun....
     JOEY> That would even it up.
     <I did too!> <so there!!>
     .Myself> Connie will be present this evening but I doubt that there will be any
       "joining"
     .Marti> can't wait for the questions
     .Myself> <I did too!> <so there!!>
     should be up this week
     .Marti> hhmmm.....shoulda known
     .Myself> should be up this week
     have to get up early in the am to get around me.
     .Marti> any way to turn of echo here?
     .Myself> have to get up early in the am to get around me.
     yeah 
     .Myself> yeah
     type /noecho
     JOEY>    /noecho
     .Myself> type /noecho
     .Marti> Wow...that was hard!
     .Marti> uh oh
     the difficult we do immediately
     .Myself> the difficult we do immediately
     the impossible takes a little longer.
     .Myself> the impossible takes a little longer.
     what uh oh?
     .Myself> what uh oh?
     .Marti> takes longer but is more fun
     JOEY> hehehe
     could be
     .Marti> nothing...thot you would have something to say
     .Myself> could be
     JOEY> longer=more fun
     u mean like after your 'that was hard' I should have said hope u enjoyed it?
     .Marti> well...if the topic is positions...
     .Marti> looks like there is just me and you guys...
     .Myself> u mean like after your 'that was hard' I should have said hope u
       enjoyed it?
     .Marti> <grinning> any ideas?
     JOEY> hmmmmm
     
     ** SoftPaws just joined CLE (4 members now) **
     .SoftPaws> hi all
     .Marti> ops
     JOEY> Hi Tig.
     .SoftPaws> hi marti!!
     hi soft
     .Myself> hi soft
     /w 
     /rn softpaws
     .Marti> Hi SoftPaws
     .SoftPaws> huggs joe!
     .SoftPaws> hi my
     .Marti> oh...is that you Tig?
     TIGLON
     .<SoftPaws> yes sure is!!
     .<SoftPaws> using my plink *handle* hehe
     /gn cle sexual positions - 2
     .Marti> How ya doing?
     .<SoftPaws> fine and you??
     .Myself> 
     ** New group name "CLE SEXUAL POSITIONS - 2" selected **
     .Marti> okay
     .<SoftPaws> ah sure is
     .<SoftPaws> this is fair..2 on 2 hehe
      
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  • Digital Archaeology: Codex (Floppy Disk) #9 (part 4)



    A summary for those that haven’t been keeping up with this series:

    I found a number of 5.25″ disks at a thrift store several years ago. I finally got around to acquiring a 5.25″ disk drive and extracting the contents a while back. Since then I have been posting the contents here.

    Based on the contents, at least some of these disks were apparently once owned by someone named Connie who used to run the “Close Encounters” Special Interest Group (SIG) on Delphi in the mid 1980s.

    A specific definition of this SIG was found in a document on one of the disks: “This SIG, known as ‘Close Encounters’, is a forum for the discussion of relationships that develop via computer services like the Source, CompuServe, and Delphi. Our primary emphasis is on the sexual aspects of those relationships.”

    This service was text based and was accessed via whatever terminal program you used on your computer to dial in to Delphi’s servers. Many of these disks have forum messages, e-mails and chat session logs. All of this is pre-internet stuff and I don’t know if there are any archives in existence today of what was on Delphi in the 1980s. In any case, much of this stuff would have been private at the time and probably wouldn’t exist in such archives even if they existed.



    This post includes the contents of DM1112.DOC which appears to have been created November 12th, 1985. This is basically another dump of an e-mail session. Not as long as the last one but plenty of drama!

    The previous post in this series is here: here.

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        # From                 Date         Subject
     
        1 BOS1A::BUSSIGMGR     11-NOV-1985  RE: AN.ny time! 
        2 BOS1A::CABUYS        11-NOV-1985  I see you there!!! 
        3 BOS1A::PRINCESS      11-NOV-1985  letter send.t to Stu, may need to talk, 
        4 BOS1A::PRINCESS      11-NOV-1985  empty sens now hon?
        5 BOS1A::CABUYS        11-NOV-1985  one heart to another
        6 BOS1A::CABUYS        11-NOV-1985  another heart for you!
        7 BOS1A::CABUYS        11-NOV-1985  Peggy's on phone now (7:49 pm)
        8 BOS1A::RODM          11-NOV-1985  WOW! GET READY!!
        9 BOS1A::RODM          11-NOV-1985  take deep breath!
       10 BOS1A::RIDPATH       11-NOV-1985  NEW BBS!!!
    
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        #1          11-NOV-1985 18:40:54                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::BUSSIGMGR    "Paul Wilczynski"
    To:     BOS1A::CABUYS
    Subj:   RE: AN ny time! 
    
    ok - Talk to you later  !
    
    Big B*** (can't get the spelling of that word right!) HIG!   UG!
    
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        #2          11-NOV-1985 18:41:37                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     RODM,CABUYS      
    Subj:   I see you there!!! 
    
    
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        #3          11-NOV-1985 18:50:27                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::PRINCESS    
    To:     CABUYS
    Subj:   letter send t to Stu, may need to talk, dont' know if i can
    
    --------------------------------------
                                    November 11, 1985
    Hi Stu,
            Now to write a real letter.
            It is cold and wet here today.  The kids are
    home from school and in the house.  I let them watch
    Superman on the VCR and afterwards had difficulties 
    between Scott and Brian - evidently there was name calling
    involved and Brian did not appreciate what Scott was
    calling him.  When he came up to tell me I called
    Scott up to ask him about it.  When he refused to come
    after the first tentative calls I raised my voice
    higher and higher still .
    When he still did not come I went out into the hall
    and called yet again.  This time he responded but
    it was too late.  I guess with the TV on he could
    not hear me and as I am more important than the TV
    I told him his punishment for not coming was losing
    the next movie.  He is now throwing a fit in his
    bed.  He sounds like a wild animal.  If he had come
    up when I called him the first or second times he 
    would not be losing the show, but since he cannot hear
    if he is in front of the TV than he will not be in front
    of the TV right now.
            I'm sorry about tonight.  I must go out to the
    Wake though as it is for a close family friend as I said.
    He has been sick with Cancer for some time and finally
    went in his sleep.  I do not know when I will get back
    in tonight and tomorrow is an early morning - school
    again!! 
    (       I will look for mail from you tonight when I get
    online to see if you had an alternative idea for time.
    If not I will assume that I should call you Wednesday at
    8:10 as usual.) Taken out of letter
            I talked with Connie for awhile yesterday.  She
    seems to be doing well.  Her company is moving in the
    beginning of the year so she might not be able to visit
    us right after Christmas.    Oh well, who knows?
    Something may work out.
            I will be interested to find out how Gladys reacted
    to Friday night.  I just hope John remembers what I told him
    about not telling her my feelings.  I am not sure he can do
    that, as he has not been great at it in the past, but there
    is always a first time.   I wonder if she will come
    back again.  John says he hopes she will.  Also, he gives
    more chances for her coming when I am not here as opposed to
    when I am here.  Oh well, is just as well I guess.  As I've
    said before, I do not want to make the same mistakes I made
    before.  But, it is equally hard for me to stay seperate from
    someone who is intimate with my family.   That does not mean we should be 'soul-mates',
    but friendly helps in these situations I have found.  When there
    is no friendship it gets very awkward.
            I know you do not feel that way.  You have no want
    or intentions of becoming friends with John.  It is a shame
    in a way, but does not matter in the long run.  I am not
    the same type of person as you.  I get involved with people -
    give of myself - just consider the Susan's, Joannies', Connies',
    and Pnut's of life.  I want to help people.  I do not like to
    feel constraints or restrictions on relationships.  I like to
    feel free to talk - to be myself - to be silly, serious, happy,
    sad, left alone when I need to be, treated like an equal.  All
    these things are rights we all have.  I do not like to feel as
    if someone is trying to change or control me.  When I do things
    I may consider whether or not they will affect others - and how
    they will - but for the most part I must consider how they affect
    me - Margaret Edith Catherine Kast Yerger.  I do not do things
    to defy others - that is not my way.  I may do things to please
    others, but not if it is not in my best interests to do so.
            I guess this all seems to be leading up to something, 
    well, I guess it is. 
            I do not think I will be seeing you again.  It is not from
    lack of love - I *do* love you still - but it is from committment
    here and the feeling that in the long run I will not be happier with
    you than I am now.  We have wonderful times together, filled with
    happiness, friendship, adventure, love, passion, fun, closeness ...
    But my future lies with John and my children.  I fool myself a lot
    in thinking of our relationship as something seperate from these.
    It is - but not entirely.  You would have me leave John for you -
    whether or not the kids came along is irrelevent - maybe not
    today or tomorrow, but sometime in the near future.  This relation-
    ship that we have now cannot continue as it is, it is not fair to
    John, Judi, or the kids.  It will only get more demanding of us and
    our time.  We may want more and more time together at their expense.
    I do not wish to take that time away from them.  I went into my
    marriage with my eyes open - though very young - and determined to
    make mine work.  I think the timing of the wedding may have been
    wrong but the marriage is not.  Along with the problems is a very
    deep committment to one another.  I cannot say what the future will
    bring John and I, maybe someday he will get tired of me, I do not
    think so, but we have decided to work it out together.  There will
    be days I will probably curse my decision and hurt inside for what
    may have been, but there will be more days when I know what I did
    was right for all concerned.
            Everything I have said to you was said from the heart.  I
    do love you.  I miss you and will dreadfully for a long time.  My
    fantasies of us together will never be forgotten.  Noone else will
    have the part of me I gave to you.  I tied my tubes for us - and so
    that John would not have to raise someone else's child.  
    I will remember you always Stuart.  You are a very special man,
    one who has given me so much, shown me so much, taught me about
    life and myself and yourself.  It's not only the places you've
    taken me, but the feelings you've given me that will remain with
    me always.
            This is never easy.  I could give you excuse after excuse
    for breaking up - unfairness, being so many miles apart, frustrations,
    fears and angers - but in all honesty I can only say that though
    we have talked about a future of Peg & Stu it is not a future I
    want to live with.  When we are locked in love's embrace it sounds
    like Heaven.  It is easy to imagine such a time coming to pass and
    my being acceptable towards it - but I do not want to be controlled
    by Stuart for the rest of my life.  I want to live and grow in my
    own way, make my own mistakes, control who I talk with or deal with
    by myself, essentially be a person in my own rights.
            I honestly think you see in me what you want to see, and
    you are trying to create that person from me.  When I tried to 
    tell you I felt uncomfortable in some of the places you took me -
    trying to show me a good time - a taste of class - you did not
    understand.  When I hurt or am uptight, I do not want to be touched.
    When I feel that I am being told what to do I react like a child
    and want to run free, rebel.  I do not usually do those things, 
    usually resentment builds up inside of me and comes out at other
    times.
            Enough.
            Stu - my Love - take care of you for us all - for Judi, Randy,
    Paula, Debbie, and least of all for Me.  I love you.  I will never
    let another get as close to me as you did .  I
    cannot afford to do that.  It will hurt to let you go - more than
    you can imagine - but do so I must.
    
    Sending you one last Kiss and memories of morning Lisses
    
    With My Love,
    
    Peggy
    
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        #4          11-NOV-1985 18:58:13                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::PRINCESS    
    To:     CABUYS
    Subj:   empty sens now hon?
    
    
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        #5          11-NOV-1985 19:31:00                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     RODM,CABUYS      
    Subj:   one heart to another
    
    .lt
    
    
    
    
                 MY   MY             MY   MY
             MY          MY      MY           MY
          MY                MYMY                 MY
         MY                  MY                   MY
         MY                                       MY
          MY                R o d                MY
           MY                and                MY
            MY            C o n n i e          MY
              MY                             MY        
                MY                         MY
                  MY                     MY
                    MY                 MY
                      MY            MY
                         MY      MY
                           MY  MY
                             MY
      
      
                   Look Who's In MY Heart !
    .el
    
    
    I love you!!!!
    
    Love,
    Connie
    
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        #6          11-NOV-1985 19:32:03                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     RODM,CABUYS      
    Subj:   another heart for you!
    
    .lt
    
    
    
    
                 MY   MY             MY   MY
             MY          MY      MY           MY
          MY                MYMY                 MY
         MY                  MY                   MY
         MY                                       MY
          MY             C o n n i e             MY
           MY                and                MY
            MY              R o d             MY
              MY                             MY        
                MY                         MY
                  MY                     MY
                    MY                 MY
                      MY            MY
                         MY      MY
                           MY  MY
                             MY
      
      
                   Look Who's In MY Heart !
    .el
    
    
    I love you!!!!
    
    Love,
    Connie
    
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        #7          11-NOV-1985 19:49:03                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::CABUYS       "CONNIE"
    To:     RODM,CABUYS      
    Subj:   Peggy's on phone now (7:49 pm)
    
    will call soon as I can!
    
    I love you!
    
    MAIL> d
    
    
    
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        #8          11-NOV-1985 20:22:23                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   WOW! GET READY!!
    
    My Beloved Darling Connie,
    
    I may have gotten TOTALLY carried away but your surprise started something
    I just couldn't stop!
    
    I hope you like what follows!
    
    GET READY !!!!!!!!
    
    Love, 
    
    Rod
    
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        #9          11-NOV-1985 20:24:36                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::RODM        
    To:     CABUYS,RODM        
    Subj:   take deep breath!
    
     
    Those    who    were    not    long    ago    in    fact    two    
      
       Are    now    in    many    ways    becoming    as   one  
     
          On  that  day  will  become  one  heart, one  life 
     
     
               When  the  waiting  ends  and  they  are 
     
     
     
     
                          Husband & Wife
     
     
                     OURS                     OURS
                OURS      OURS           OURS       OURS
             OURS           OURS       OURS            OURS
            OURS               OURS OURS                OURS
            OURS      Rod         OURS       Connie     OURS
            OURS        \                   /          OURS
             OURS         \               /           OURS
              OURS          \           /            OURS
               OURS         Husband & Wife          OURS
                 OURS                             OURS        
                   OURS                         OURS
                     OURS                     OURS
                       OURS                 OURS
                         OURS            OURS
                            OURS      OURS
                              OURS  OURS
                                 OURS
     
    I Told you!
    
    My Darling I love you!!
    
    
    Rod
    
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        #10         11-NOV-1985 21:00:43                                        MAIL
    From:   BOS1A::RIDPATH     
    To:     BUBBLES,SCOTTHBS,SERGO,AMTRAKMAN,RIDPATH,SETHJ,STOSH,TONYCAMAS,WBATTY,WB
    YRN,WEEWIZARD,WHG,WOZ,YDOCXY,PRINCESSCHEY,WPG,HBSBRINKMAN,SILKIE,CARBYS,CABUYS
    Subj:   NEW BBS!!!
    
    HI,
         THERES 'S AN ALL NEW BBS IN TOWN.
      
    IT'S BOSTON'S "DIAL YOUR MATCH"
      
         THIS IS BOSTON'S ONLY ON LINE
    MATCHING SERVICE.
      
         FREE VALIDATION FOR ALL FEMALE
    CALLERS
       
          "DIAL YOUR MATCH"
             BOSTON, MA
           (617) 361-5459
      
    PHONE LINES WILL NOT BE INSTALLED UNTILL
    THE 14TH (NOV) SO... LOOK FOR DY IAL YOUR
    MATCH TO BE UP ON THE WEEKEND OF THE 16TH
    
     
    HELP GET THE     US OFF TO A GOOD START AND LET YOUR
    FRIENDS KNOW ABOUT BOSTON'S FIRST ON LINE MATCHING        
    COMPUTER MATCHING SYSTEM.
      
    THOSE USR ER'S CLOSER TO WORS CHESTER, CALL
         "DIAL YOUR MATCH # 85"
      M           (617) 792-6234
       
      
    THANL KS, AND REMEMBER BOSTON'S 
        ** DIAL YOUR MATCH **
            (617) 361-5459)
    WILL BE UP NOV 16  TH..........
    
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