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From: jde@unify.UUCP (Jeff Evarts)
Newsgroups: comp.misc
Subject: Re: Ten Commandments of Personal Computing
Message-ID: <1005@unify.UUCP>
Date: 31 Jul 89 23:33:31 GMT
References: <66667@yale-celray.yale.UUCP> <1393@helios.mmsac.UUCP>
Reply-To: jde@unify.UUCP (Jeff Evarts)
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA
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In article <1393@helios.mmsac.UUCP> eben@mmsac.UUCP (Eben R.S. Visher) writes:
>Scott Horne hit it on the head: read permission to my files is
>implicit permission to browse. 

I disagree, but what follows is what I really contest...

>[...] if you don't want it seen, then RSA or
>DES it (of course, if you simply crypt(1) it, you're inviting someone
>to spend 7 minutes with Crypt Breaker's Workbench).

Okay, there are no smileys here, so I'm assuming you meant what you said.
ABSOLUTELY NOT!  This is frankly rediculous. This kind of "If I CAN do it,
it must be OK with you" attitude is a real problem in today's computer
industry. Gee, With an attitude like that, worms & viruses are completely
allright, because you were stupid enough to have an insecure system The
idea that I would have to encrypt a file to keep a coworker out of it
really scares me. This is not the way things should be run. Just because
you didn't lock your door, it's okay for me to come inside and watch TV
in your house? BULL! (My excuse: Well, you didn't stop me, and I wasn't
hurting anything...)

>
>--Eben
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Sorry if this was more flame than opinion,

-amarth
(jde@unify)