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From: pete@wlbr.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m6809
Subject: Re: os9 l2 as terminal
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Date: Tue, 26-May-87 19:27:35 EDT
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Posted: Tue May 26 19:27:35 1987
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References: <1987May22.125611.16647@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu>
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In article <1987May22.125611.16647@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu> ac@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu (Mark Acfield) writes:
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>   The last few days I have been trying to use my COCO3 with OS9 level II as
>a terminal.  I have a couple of questions as a result:
>
>1) Has anyone done a TERMCAP for the level II windows?

Mark Sunderlin (also on the net at ..!ihnp4!chinet!megabyte, I
believe) had some termcap stuff for wordpak I ande II. Variations
on these should work fine.

>
>2) Has anyone done a MAP3270 (for tn3270) for the above?

I haven't heard of one.

>3) It was reported once that erase to end of screen on the second to last line
>   of an 80 x 24 window failed to clear the last line.  Was this ever confirmed?
>   Has a bypass been found?

I believe some of the OS9 Forum hackers are working on this as well.
No resolution to date.

>
>4) It was reported once that snow appears on the screen when large amounts of
>   system calls are being executed.  In particular terminal program that 
>   constantly check for characters with a getstat call cause problems.  I can
>   certain attest to this!   I found that adjusting the foreground and
>   background colors helps a bit but it's still not great.  Anyone heard any
>   more about this problem?

Some folks have said that a 3 Mhz Hitachi version of the 6809 (called
a 6309??) is the cure. My sources (Kevin Darling, for one) have said
'nyet'. I have it on *good* authority that Tandy is designing a GIME2
chip as a fix, but release date and availability are still in the
'vapor' category. I too am afflicted by a *bad* case of the snow. I
have shut down the coco3 as a consequence. I may turn it back on if
they ever fix it. Meantime, I use a Gimix for all LII stuff, and a few
LI systems tied to it.

>
>5) What is available in the line of public domain terminal programs especially
>   ones which support "standard" terminal types and offer Xmodem and Kermit 
>   support?  Also, what about non-public domain programs?

LOTS. The OS9 Forum has Xcom9, a PD program written all in asm that
supports ascii & xmodem xfers. It is fast, tight, and small. The
sources are huge & complex to assemble. Best bet is to get a canned
pre-assembled version. They/we also have SMOD8 - a package written in
C that supports ascii and Compuserve's proprietary 'B' protocol (which
is *much* faster for upload/download via Tymnet/Telenet than Xmodem).
There are also BASIC09 packages called Hi-Term, Bi-term, and a few
others. All work apparently well. (Credits: Xcom9 - Greg Morse (and to
some degree, me); SMOD8 - Carl Kreider; Hi/Bi-term's - Bill Brady).

>6) I downloaded Kermit from Columbia some time ago.  It works OK but occasionaly
>   it crashes my system or causes it to spontaneously reboot.  Anyone had this
>   problem?
>

Kermit. I have been using the UG version of KERMIT 1.6 for over a year
with both level I and II os9/6809. While it's not airtight, it's not a
system smasher by any means. In fact, it is the program that runs when
my unix system logs in to my os9 system (instead of SHELL in the
password file). I do automatic, unattended transfers every night with
it. There is also a version 1.7 lurking about - Bob Larson, John
Covicci are a few of the contributors to that, although I am uncertain
as to its stability under os9/6809. That's being looked into right
now.

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