Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!throopw From: throopw@dg_rtp.UUCP (Wayne Throop) Newsgroups: sci.misc Subject: Re: costs of extinction Message-ID: <685@dg_rtp.UUCP> Date: Sat, 8-Nov-86 19:11:19 EST Article-I.D.: dg_rtp.685 Posted: Sat Nov 8 19:11:19 1986 Date-Received: Mon, 10-Nov-86 05:12:21 EST References: <121200006@inmet> <1222@cybvax0.UUCP> Lines: 54 Summary: The analogy of books to some natural resources is an apt one > mrh@cybvax0.UUCP (Mike Huybensz) >> janw@inmet.UUCP (Jan Wasilewsky) >> That's the point: there are too many to study any time soon. > If a library has too many books for you to read in your lifetime, does > that justify burning a percentage of them? The more I think about it, the more I think that the analogy of books here is a good one. (I think Jan first brought it up, saying that the Library of Congress catalogs and retains rare and common books alike.) Consider the analogy in some detail. Some illiterate savages are let loose in a library. It is cold. So some of them start to burn the books for warmth. Eventually, some of the savages learn to read, and try to convince the others to not burn so much, so that more of the books may be preserved. The others jeer, saying that "we'll eventually learn to write, and print new books so it won't matter if we burn *THESE* books... we'll just create others. And anyhow, you've already read some of these books, so they are preserved in your memory. Surely you can't object to burning *THOSE*?" (I know someone who pulls that last one on me with my magazines... :-) Now, are the book-readers justified in coercing the book-burners to let the temperature in the library stay at a lower level, to preserve more of the books? Are they justified in unilaterally preventing the book-burners from using books as heating fuel? What about if the burners claimed some of the books as "property" because when they first occupied the library, they took to sleeping in the stacks where these books were stored? What should readers who sleep in other stacks do? The mapping to the genetic diversity debate is clear, and can be taken to a quite detailed level. Folks who want to legislate a limit to population expansion to preserve species are analogous to the readers who want to limit the temperature of the library. Folks who want to set aside preserves are analogous to those who want to burn only tables and chairs (and perhaps material brought in from outside), and not books. The savages can't produce books *NOW*, but the burners say they eventually will... perhaps even before the entire library is bookless, analogous to the current state of the art in genetic engineering. Their current methods of book "preservation" are also quite analogous to the imperfect preservation techniques we now have for genetic material. There are even many more subtle analogies to be drawn. Natural extinction rates analogous to the eventual crumbling of even archival quality paper, for example. Cast in terms of book-readers and book-burners, who is justified? -- The best book on programming for the layman is "Alice in Wonderland"; but that's because it's the best book on anything for the layman. --- Alan J. Perlis -- Wayne Throop!mcnc!rti-sel!dg_rtp!throopw