Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Rich Rosen) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Evidences for Religion (reposting) Message-ID: <1309@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Thu, 25-Jul-85 08:11:17 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxd.1309 Posted: Thu Jul 25 08:11:17 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 27-Jul-85 02:37:53 EDT References: <1315@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: Whatever we're calling ourselves this week Lines: 21 >>This is not just an assertion on Rich's part. There is empirical evidence >>demonstrating the desirability of freedom, and the desirability of >>increasing one's chances of survival. Look at any region of the world where >>refugees are; They are fleeing totalitarian societies, famine, and >>war. This fact is all that is needed to justify Rich's point of view, and >>consequently show that freedom etc is of some value. >>Padraig Houlahan. > Only if you justify the value of survival. > Paul DuBois {allegra,ihnp4,seismo}!uwvax!uwmacc!dubois --+-- But we already DID that. We value survival because we like surviving! Remember that statement you called "pro-found"? So "obvious"? Is the obvious out of your mental reach? Or do you mean something more when you ask for "justification" of the value of survival? Justify it to whom? To what? To some external that YOU value? That you can prove the existence of? If not, what more justification is necessary??????? Except to you... -- Providing the mininum daily adult requirement of sacrilege... Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr