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From: rjb@akgua.UUCP (R.J. Brown [Bob])
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Subject: Re: Islam, Christianity and Hitler
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Date: Mon, 5-Aug-85 17:01:19 EDT
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Paul Dubuc contributed this as part of his reply to Mr Martillo
about the logical connection between Luther's hideous attitude
toward Jews ( postulated cause ) and the Holocaust that occurred
in Germany 450 years later (postulated effect).

>>Also, I think Luther's opinion played a relatively minor part with Hitler
>>compared to Nietzsche, for example (either directly, or indirectly through
>>men like Albert Camus and Jean Paul Sartre).  Also, where do you think
>>Hitler got his ideas about eugenics and social Darwinism?   Was that part
>>of Luther's fundemental ideology?
>>
>>-- 
>>
>>Paul Dubuc 	cbscc!pmd
>>
>>

Remember that the Nazi hero Nietzsche was about as hostile an atheist
as you could dig up back in the 19 th Century.  Just for the record
let's rerun some quotes that have appeared on the net at an earlier time
to see where Hitler got his feelings about religion in general and
Christianity specifically.

MR ADOLPH HITLER SPEAKS ON RELIGION:

"The religions are all alike, no matter what they call themselves. They
have no future - certainly none for the Germans. Fascism, if it likes,
may come to terms with the Church. So shall I. Why not? That will not
prevent me from tearing up Christianity root and branch, and
annihilating it in Germany....

A German Church, a German Christianity, is distortion. One is either a
German or a Christian. You cannot be both...."

HOW ABOUT THE GERMAN FAITH MOVEMENT:

Or from Professor Hauer, one of the three leaders of the German Faith
Movement of the 30's and 40's:
"We confess the primal religious will of the German people. Through this
leadership we believe we can find the road to salvation (Heil) for
ourselves and our people.
...The struggle between Christianity and the German faith in the German
soul is thus an event of unexpected depth."

And among the officially announced objectives of the GFM was:
"Therefore necessarily the German Faith Movement denies Christianity. It
rejects Christianity in every shape or form, because its fundamental
principles contradict the laws of life of people and race, and are alien
to what is intrinsically German."

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Seems like these Nazis put in more time with Fuerbach and Nietzsche
than they did at the foot of the Old Rugged Cross.    Uh-HUH.

Bob Brown {...ihnp4!akgua!rjb}