Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site prometheus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: lightning bursts Message-ID: <156@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 02:51:29 EDT Article-I.D.: promethe.156 Posted: Thu Aug 1 02:51:29 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 2-Aug-85 08:22:39 EDT References: <3305@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD Lines: 57 > Once one lightining strike has ionized the air it leaves a path of lesser > resistance than existed before. That alone should make successive strikes > more probable until the available potential has diminished. Then air > turbulence eliminates the ionized path and the max potential must rebuild. > > This does not explain why paths OTHER than the first one appear to be part > of the cluster of strikes that follow the first one, a phenomena I have > observed myself (from the ground). My suggestion is that there is > leakage current moving through the air that preceeds the strike and that > they are ALL about ready to produce stike paths. Which one goes first is > therefore random and the burst is NOT "caused by" the first one. > > Rick Merrill 617-493-3751 Cloud to ground lightning generates a vaccuum channel which persists for a couple of milliseconds. "M" strokes can light up the vacuum channel sort of like a florescent tube without the phosphor. Consequently such strokes are only seen using image intensifier fast optics. It is more likely that multiple strokes which can be seen by rapidly moving ones eye back and forth so as to spacially separate the strokes on the retina, probably track along the same breakdown path (stationary with respect to the air mass), because of the copius generation of ozone and nitrous oxides which are which are quit unstable. Also, oxygen and these compounds are electrophilic and will attach electrons to form negative ions. These ions give up free electrons in a relatively weak field as far as lightning potentials go. The triggering of ancillary cloud to cloud lightning probably occurs because once a cloud to ground stroke occurs the charge of the adjacent clouds redistributes and this produces a series of cloud to cloud lightning. The potential to generate a discharge is less in clouds with heavy rain so that such charge redistribution can also signal the potential build up it takes to generate a new cloud to ground stroke. So that cloud to cloud strokes can preceed a cloud to ground stroke. Dry air strokes often generate the biggest wallop. They usually come from the leading edge of thunderheads along a fast squall line. A boys camera (wide angle lens looks straight up) took a picture out west (krider at arizona) that showed a stroke which had feed branches spreading out radially for forty miles. And there are "bright" lightning strokes off the coast of Japan that have triggered nuclear bomb monitors in satellites. Suggested energies were well over 10^11 joules. One more interesting thing. Charge on tiny rain drops tends to prevent their merging. So usually two minutes after a nearby heavy stroke (rain drop fall time), the rain will start or increase significantly. That's more reliable at the beginning five or ten minutes of a rain storm. - - NOTE: MAIL PATH MAY DIFFER FROM HEADER - - +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+ | Paul M. Koloc, President: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | pmk@prometheus.UUCP; ..seismo!prometheus!pmk.UUCP | decade | +-------------------------------------------------------+--------+