Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!vortex!root From: root@vortex.UUCP (The Superuser) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: $1288 ashtrays Message-ID: <730@vortex.UUCP> Date: Thu, 1-Aug-85 23:59:18 EDT Article-I.D.: vortex.730 Posted: Thu Aug 1 23:59:18 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 3-Aug-85 21:17:41 EDT References: <532@wjvax.UUCP> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 29 I am most definitely aware of how government purchasing is done. And I can certainly understand how out-of-line costs are more likely to occur with heavily spec'd military hardware. But many of these overruns are on things like office stools and other equipment that isn't even for military use--just plain old office equipment that wasn't heavily spec'd. What has happened is pretty clear. The current purchasing system has created an environment that makes it easy for "legit" overruns to occur and also easy for contractors to take advantage of the situation and start piling on lots of "non-legit" costs as well. When the government puts out a long spec on a screwdriver, does the supplier say, "Sure, we'll build you a special screwdriver for that--$200" -- or do they say, "Our regular screwdriver like we buy for our non-DoD work will meet that spec just fine--$2." There's a question of honesty. I think many contractors take the P.T. Barnum view--"There's a sucker born every minute." They seem to figure that if the purchaser is so silly that they don't realize they're being fleeced, the seller doesn't have any responsibility to point out the problem, or the cheaper places simple parts and tools could be bought. Apparently some contractors feel that a complex government spec is an easy excuse for throwing all ethics out the window. And we won't dwell on some of the even worse abuses charged to government contracts like office parties--they're a drop in the bucket compared with the screwdrivers, ashtrays, and stool feet. --Lauren--