Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site petrus.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxr!ulysses!gamma!epsilon!zeta!sabre!bellcore!petrus!karn From: karn@petrus.UUCP (Phil R. Karn) Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: One farad Caps Message-ID: <427@petrus.UUCP> Date: Mon, 29-Jul-85 11:42:44 EDT Article-I.D.: petrus.427 Posted: Mon Jul 29 11:42:44 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 31-Jul-85 04:30:35 EDT References: <102500002@hp-pcd.UUCP> <168@kitty.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Inc Lines: 20 I've never understood the fascination some people seem to have with "large" capacitors like 1 Farad. What really matters is the ability of a capacitor to store energy. For a capacitor of a given size, this is generally much greater at high voltages (and correspondingly lower capacitances.) This is because as you increase the thickness of the dialectric, the capacitance decreases linearly, but the working voltage increases linearly. Since the energy stored in a capacitor is 0.5 * C * V^2, the net result is a linear increase in energy storage capacity. One of the reasons switching power supplies are so small for the amount of power they carry is that the AC line is directly rectified and filtered at relatively high voltage, before conversion to the output voltage. For example, I have here a Lambda 10A @ 5V switcher. The first cap is 330 uF @ 200V. When rectifying the AC line, this cap will store 4.36 J, but it is only half the size of a 35mm film can. On the other hand, storing this much energy in a 1F cap would require a working voltage greater than 3V, and it would certainly be much larger than this. Phil