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From: orb@whuxl.UUCP (SEVENER)
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Subject: Re: Euromissiles (reply to Kuperberg)
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Date: Mon, 8-Apr-85 08:02:59 EST
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> >If you find 100 American missile warheads in Europe (that is, other than
> >the Pershing II's), I'll give you a cigar.  My source, which is the New
> >State of the World Atlas (by Michael Kildron and Ronald Segal, says that
> >there aren't that many warheads deployed in Europe by the U.S.
> >			Greg Kuperberg
> >		     harvard!talcott!gjk
> >
 
In fact we had over 100 nuclear missiles deployed in Europe at the time
we began deploying the second round of Pershing II's.
Here is a table from Strobe Talbott's "Deadly Gambits" which deals
with the question of missiles in Europe at great length:
   
U.S. Pershing I missiles in W. Germany       108
W. German Pershing I's                        72
("Deadly Gambits", p.88)
 
Since I don't smoke I'll forgo the cigar.  I have no idea why the 
"New State of the World Atlas" fails to list this weapon system.  If
they are interested in weapons systems at all perhaps they only list
"strategic" weapons systems.
 
Here is another interesting quote from Zbigniew Brzezinski, a confirmed
hawk whom I usually find abhorrent:
     "I was personally never persuaded that we needed [the new weapons ]
      for military reasons.  I was persuaded reluctantly that we needed
      [them] to obtain European support for SALT.  This was largely
      because Chancellor Schmidt made such a big deal out of the so-called
      Euro-strategic imbalance that was being generated by the Soviet
      deployment of the SS-20.  To keep him in line we felt that some
      response in Europe on the intermediate level would be necessary."
("Deadly Gambits", p.33)
 
I hope it will be generally recognized that the Pershing II was indeed
preceded by the Pershing I?
                           "all we are saying, is give Peace a chance"
                 tim sevener    whuxl!orb