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From: tonyw@ubvax.UUCP (Tony Wuersch)
Newsgroups: net.politics
Subject: Re: Re: America: soft, rich, pacifist (how they perceive us)
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Date: Thu, 4-Apr-85 14:04:37 EST
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>     I think Tim is again referring to the time during the russian revolution
> when we sent troops *at the request of the russian government* in order to
> help fight the bolsheviks.  It was a case of 'too little, too late'.  He 
> doesn't make this clear, presumably to help foster the
> illusion that we were "imperialist agressors", sending our
> troops to invade russia.
> -- 
> Jeff Sonntag
> ihnp4!mhuxt!js2j

If an army enters a country and attacks its government, it's an invader.
The intentions of such an army are irrelevant.  The bolsheviks had as much
or more right to call themselves the government by the end of WWI as did
any other group.  After all, they held all the major governmental centers
and a large part of the countryside (else they would have starved to
death).  Anyone who invades a nation deserves the name "aggressor".

And what were US intentions in invading?  The same as the other European
powers who entered into the civil war -- to preserve investments (not
necessarily US ones), and to snuff out an example to other dangerous workers'
movements.  It surely didn't go in to preserve democracy.  The term
"imperialist aggressors", especially when applied to us by the victor
government in that civil war, is an understandable and probably justified
description of what the US was doing and wanted to achieve.

No illusion here.

Tony Wuersch
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