Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site prometheus.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!umcp-cs!prometheus!pmk From: pmk@prometheus.UUCP (Paul M Koloc) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Re: Re: Ball lightning Message-ID: <138@prometheus.UUCP> Date: Sat, 6-Apr-85 17:45:26 EST Article-I.D.: promethe.138 Posted: Sat Apr 6 17:45:26 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Apr-85 01:24:17 EST References: <56@tekig5.UUCP> <9585@brl-tgr.ARPA> <133@prometheus.UUCP> <40@utastro.UUCP> <134@prometheus.UUCP> <499@lll-crg.ARPA> Organization: Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD Lines: 70 > > It's also dangerous > > because of its energetic currents, (soft Xrays) and relativistic electron > > current beam induced transmutation of elements in bricks in a chimmey where > > ... .. etc. > This is a little too much to swallow. If you ever come by a reference in > a journal which explains the mystery of ball lightning I would like to see it. ------------------------------ W A R N I N G -------------------------- This is not a journal and will discuss the nature of ball lightning. But the bites are smaller and only the energetic currents will be discussed, and some evidence of X-ray damage (which usually indicates relativistic currents). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ The tokamak is a toroidal device which is operated with "thermal electron" currents during normal use. However, the generation of "runaways occur when the working ranges of current driving EMF's vs particle density are being determined. For TFTR 10e13 particle densities and 50v per loop are enough to generate runaways. The drive profile has to be turned down after the initial lead pulse since the collision cross section for the hotter thermals drops as they heat up. The drive pulse is "on" for tens of milliseconds so that runaways above 5 mev have occurred, as evidenced by the the Wolfram (tungsten) limiters becoming radioactive when they were bombarded by the runaways after disruption. Similar multicircuit EMF voltage integrations of internal currents during the formation of ball lightnings are probable. Look at the higher driving voltages of lightning and the faster inductive collapse times. Our estimates are that electrons currents will be driven by loop EMF's of several tens of kv with accumulation times of 2 to 5 microseconds. Several thousand circuits will yield electron kinetic energies on the order of ten mev. This is also true of our proposed formation scheme, which generates the PMK structure (Mantle and Kernel vacuum field, currents and plasma) from a single energy storage bank. (Want to help send money or electronic framing camera or both, and we'll return the camera after a few months and with pictures). The only evidence of the elemental transmutation of ball lightning struck brick came from a Brit with plenty of initials (D. E. T. F. Ashby) who is responsible for some significant portion of the UK component of the JET work at Culham. Check out a book "Nature of Ball Lightning" by Stanley Singer, Plenum Press 70. Monday I will be meeting (first time) with an Air Force radiologist (MD, PhD), that spent a year working with the French Government verifying and estimating the extent and nature of radiation burns caused by proximate human encounters with ball lightnings. I'll get back to you bye email with references. This damage is probably due to soft X-rays, generated by the small angle scattering of the DENSE beam currents within the bl. Incidently, the first Spheromak generated by G Goldenbaum of the University of Maryland, Laboratory for Plasma and Fusion Energy Studies, had toroidal currents (.55 kamp) exceeding the then largest tokamak the PPPL's PLT (Princeton) although the diameter was only six inches. (thermals) The L/R time for energetic currents are ~10 sec, and for thermals a few ~10 microseconds. Loss of energetic currents would cause a catastophic decay. Consequently, the high internal magnetic energy density, the field collapse, flash ohmic heating of the plasma could easily explain the huge shock detonations associated with ball lightning disruption. The instaneous collapse of any stray dipole field (~ 1 or 2 kg that is non-neutralized by mantle currents) of the bl could easily generate killing EMF's and >1amp lethal brain shocking currents. Professor Richman's body had no apparent external damage. BEWARE OF CATHODE RAYS !! !! -- |-------------------------------------------------------|--------| | pmk@prometheus: (301) 445-1075 | FUSION | | Prometheus II Ltd., College Park, MD 20740-0222 | this | | ..!{umcp-cs,seismo}!prometh!pmk | decade | |-------------------------------------------------------|--------|