Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!lindley From: lindley@ut-ngp.UUCP (John L. Templer) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics Subject: Re: perpetual motion Message-ID: <1535@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Sun, 31-Mar-85 23:52:51 EST Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.1535 Posted: Sun Mar 31 23:52:51 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Apr-85 02:19:19 EST References: <608@vortex.UUCP> <368@talcott.UUCP> <> <388@nmtvax.UUCP> Organization: U.Texas Physics Department; Austin, Texas Lines: 34 Xref: watmath net.misc:7752 net.physics:2387 From: hennessy@nmtvax.UUCP (Greg Hennessy) > Greg Kuperberg object to a statement attributed to Einstein about "if > you can create matter, then you can create momentum." > I for one don't see anything wrong with the statement. As of now we > can't create EITHER but rewriting ONE law of physics is worse than > eating one peanut, to quote Larry Niven. There's a small problem of terminology here; depending on what you define as matter and momentum, we both can and can't make them. To explain, in special releativity, momentum is a four-vector. The firt three components are just the three components of what we normaly think of as momentum, and the fourth component is proportional to the total energy. Now, changing refference frames is equivalent to transforming the four-vector according to the Lorentz transformations. So the energy and momentum can change, but the momentum vector's magnitude doesn't. As far as "making" momentum or energy, all you can do is trade one off against the other by using this process. Looking back at what I just wrote, I see I wasn't too clear. I can only say it's been a while since I took phy 353. -- John L. Templer University of Texas at Austin {allegra,gatech,seismo!ut-sally,vortex}!ut-ngp!lindley "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose."