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From: pvp@ihuxo.UUCP (Philip Polli)
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Subject: Re: Origin of man
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Date: Tue, 19-Mar-85 17:37:47 EST
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Dan Boskovich writes:

> Yes, Adam and Eve did commit INCEST.

Apparently Adam and Eve existed. Did I miss some interesting
scientific discovery? Is this an identity or perspectival(?) statement?
I don't recall any of the other creationists on the net (even ICR)
claiming the literal existence of Adam and Eve. Anybody care to
provide scientific evidence for the existence of the ill-starred couple?

> What we know of genetics today explains the dangers of incest.
> The answer to your question is a theological one and not scientific.
> Incest may have not been as dangerous when the earth and 
> the human race was still relatively new.

Why is the dangerousness of incest in the past not a scientific question?
The danger is physical, not spiritual. Sounds like your answer is:
"God can do anything he wants to, so there"
when somebody asks you to explain the implications of your assertions.
I'm sure it makes you feel good, but it doesn't count as science.

By the way, since you don't seem to have noticed, this newsgroup has been
trying to determine the "scientific" basis of creationism.

>...[ deleted clearly theological statements ]...
> Since the entire human race was in the loins of Adam at the
> time of his sin, this means the death of the entire fallen, human race.

How did we all get in Adams loin? Didn't Eve have anything to do with it?
How long ago did Adam and Eve live, anyway? You sound like someone
who knows!

> However, at this early period of time, the effects of sin (death) were
> not so advanced and the human specimen was not as imperfect as today.
> This is why the people of this era lived for hundreds of years.

Again, I must have missed the new evidence indicating that people
lived so long in the past.
Please post a reference to the evidence of this.
I love to be amazed.

> The canopy of vapors surrounding the earth which was removed at the Noachic
> flood of course had much to do with this also.

There was something in the vapors that made them live so long?
Lets study the physical evidence of the vapors and find out what it was!
There *is* physical evidence you can direct us to, isn't there?
It must have had a physical manifestation we can study.

> But with all the great
> medical breakthroughs, the human race is still destined to die. Cancer,
> starvation, drug and alcohol OD's and even suicides are all symptoms
> of a dying race.

Funny, I thought we had a problem with the human race getting too
numerous, not with it dying out. If we started dying when there were
only two of us, we must be doing it wrong.

> God allowed incest since it was the only means of
> multiplying the human race at that time. It was His perogative!

Gee, God can allow sin if he wants to. What an interesting idea!
If he allows it, is it no longer a sin? No, don't answer that.
Sorry I brought it up.


	Phil Polli
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