Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site cbscc.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbsck!cbscc!pmd From: pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) Newsgroups: net.origins Subject: Re: Re. Bishop Ussher and the age of the earth,etc. Message-ID: <5006@cbscc.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 21:59:54 EST Article-I.D.: cbscc.5006 Posted: Mon Mar 18 21:59:54 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 19-Mar-85 07:53:22 EST References: <1041@decwrl.UUCP>, <1094@utastro.UUCP> <4992@cbscc.UUCP>, <1117@utastro.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus Lines: 31 Padraig, Are you really a "seeker of knowledge", or do you just like to argue? I took you for the latter because of the tone of your posting (and others). If you just wanted the issue clarified, you could have been less sarcastic. If I have presumed too much about you, then I'm sorry. I did not conveniently omit your quote of Ken. Any one following the discussion would have read it. The point of my "presumptions about your speaking" is that if you speak of the "sunrise" or "sunset" as such, you are using geocentric description. Similarly, uses of words like "east", and "north", "right" and "left" are, in a sense, flat earth descriptions. "Is Spain really to the east?" "Well not really. The earth curves slightly as you go, you see...". The thing I was trying to bring out, is that language does have rules of interpretation, and I felt you were breaking them. You didn't bother dealing with Ken's question of how you would expect certain events in the Bible to be described (e.g. the sun "standing still") and yet have the event be understood. Scholars don't interpret the Bible as haphazardly as you infer. Literary criticism is a valuable discipline. From the tone of your article I could only surmize that you have quite a disdain for those who try to study the Bible seriously and make sense out of what it says. You seemed to be trying to make nonsense out of it and that bothered me. Again, I apologise to everyone for my outburst. It was totally uncalled for. By the way, the reason I identified myself as "not DuBois" is that people have gotten us awefully confused in the past, and I wouldn't want my inanity to give the other "Paul" a bad name. Thanks. -- Paul Dubuc cbscc!pmd