Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site drivax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!hao!hplabs!amdahl!drivax!landauer From: landauer@drivax.UUCP (Doug Landauer) Newsgroups: net.micro.68k Subject: Re: VME/10s and System V/68 Unix. Do they exist? Message-ID: <96@drivax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Feb-85 18:09:45 EST Article-I.D.: drivax.96 Posted: Mon Feb 11 18:09:45 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Feb-85 01:47:41 EST References: <259@nmtvax.UUCP> Organization: Digital Research, Monterey, CA Lines: 36 Robert Kenyon (...lanl!nmtvax!robert) asks: > Does anyone out there run Unix System V/68 on VME/10s? Yep, we have several of them here. > Has anyone > kept up to date with the updates? Has anyone (including Motorola) > even bothered with them? Yep; system V/68, Release 2.8 is actually worth using. (Much faster than Release 2.7 was.) There is still no "shl" (shell layers -- Bell's (oops, AT&T's) answer to csh's job control) yet, and their shell has no shell functions yet, but otherwise the software seems pretty solid. (But don't try ptrace with an odd address...) > Am I the only one that thinks the > keyboards are garbage? Is there anyone out there who thinks they're not? Don't even think of using "vi" with them. Try emacs instead. If you have enough memory. Less than 1 Meg is just asking for trouble. Other notes: Don't rely too heavily on the serial card (MVME400), and thoroughly test the ones you get. (Unless they're connected to a generous terminal like a Zenith/Heath 29, you'll need a cable with pins 5,6,8 and 20 all wired in common on the VME side.) When the card goes bonkers, reboot. The serial driver will need to be improved before they'll sell many of these machines. -- Doug Landauer -- ...[ ihnp4 | mot | ucscc | amdahl ] !drivax!landauer