Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site sjuvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!princeton!astrovax!sjuvax!jss From: jss@sjuvax.UUCP (J. Shapiro) Newsgroups: net.micro.16k Subject: Re: Vaporware Message-ID: <830@sjuvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 11-Feb-85 02:05:03 EST Article-I.D.: sjuvax.830 Posted: Mon Feb 11 02:05:03 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 12-Feb-85 06:11:25 EST References: <794@sjuvax.UUCP> <2329@nsc.UUCP> Organization: Saint Josephs Univ. Phila., Pa. Lines: 40 [Aren't you hungry...?] I am sorry to see that Richard Mateosian, though kind in intention, missed my point. I can understand that the newer revisions might go to companies with a history with National - someday I will appreciate the same treatment (if I stick with the parts that long). This attitude I fully agree with, though the precedence system should damn well be explained to the people who will be on the short end of it (as well as those for whom it is positive). Far more important is the fact that the chips were: a) Not up to speed. I have heard many things about the recent push to get 10 Mhz Rev N parts out. Given that, it seems absurd that I can't even get an 8 Mhz Rev K part. b) FAR MORE IMPORTANT, having the piece of silicon, I can't even build an automated toilet flusher for lack of a bug list. This is inexcusable. Mr. Mateosian and I have discussed in private the deplorable nature of National's local tech support people. He suggested talking to pioneer, which I did. The problem there is that they have to deal with the same damn bumbling incompetence that I do.I am sorry, ladies and gentlemen, but it is terribly frustrating and I am sick and tired of being patient while losing out to competitors because some ass somewhere in the chain of command can't get his shit together. As I said in my first posting, I am *GLAD* I do not have a large amount of money committed to National. If things do not improve quickly I will seek to make that commitment less than it is. More unfortunate is the fact that I personally feel National's architecture to be better than Motorolla's (matter of opinion - no flames please). Perhaps National has a spot for a marketing VP??? I would be happy to take on the job for a few years. At least then I would get buglists and many of you wouldn't be going bankrupt. Jon Shapiro Haverford College