Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!godot!ima!pbear!peterb From: peterb@pbear.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: Re: mr. insensitive speaks out Message-ID: <38@pbear.UUCP> Date: Tue, 5-Feb-85 06:27:29 EST Article-I.D.: pbear.38 Posted: Tue Feb 5 06:27:29 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 8-Feb-85 01:50:36 EST Lines: 77 Nf-ID: #R:pucc-h:-174800:pbear:10800018:000:2875 Nf-From: pbear!peterb Feb 4 15:39:00 1985 From pucc-h!aeq aka Jeff Sargent... > >>From pbear!peterb: > >Well Jeff, I really can't believe that one person >can be this hung up over love/life/world. Don't >try to turn away from the accusation either, you >are still using the net as a crutch, and an >expensive 24Karat gold one at that. > >>Buttering up the other netters, eh? :-) > >What's so wrong with having a crutch? All of us >are, to a greater or lesser degree, crippled and >imperfect and weak, at least sometimes; we all >need support. It happens that the net is an >(almost) always available means of support, as I >expressed in another article, since it's there >for me over 20 of the 24 hours. > Jeff, Eh, I appologize for fickering on a flame, but that was written in the height of the "bomb JS" arguement, and I was a little perturbed to say the least. I am not disagreeing that people need a crutch, but remember what the extent of the network is, and who it costs. I have to poll for my news, and thank God that I don't have to dial long distance. Some of the people on the net have to pay for the calls since their phone bill is not sanction by a university/company. That is what I meant by an expensive crutch. Also I think that just as people need a crutch, they also need to experience without. If a person has had a crutch that is easily available (such as the net) then that person may choose unknowingly to use the crutch in cases where it was not necassary. >>Jeff, if all love gives you "as far as you can >>tell" is work and pain, then I think that you are >>trying to build a relationship that is destined >>to die. >I think we stumbled into semantic difficulties >here over the annoying multiplicity of meanings >of the word "love". I am not just referring to >the love that occurs between Special Ones (SO's, >the new disabbreviation which I am hoping to see >become official); that sort of love would >probably not be all work and pain, since if it >were the people involved would probably no longer >be SO's. I am referring to the sort of love that >is shown by people like Mother Teresa -- people >who give far beyond what they receive in this >life. That degree, that sort, that depth (if not >that particular realization) of love is what I am >still hoping to become capable of; however, at >this point in my progress, it appears well-nigh >impossible to be that loving, and the journey to >that exalted state appears most arduous, inasmuch >as it will require the sacrifice of all the >defenses against other humans (and against God >Himself) which I have built so strongly, probably >more strongly than the majority. As for this, All I can say is that you gotta take it one step at a time. Don't bite more than you can chew. take your time and pace yourself. Good Luck, Peter Barada ima!pbear!peterb "From the ministry of Creativly Crazy Computing..."