Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!josh From: josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Socialism -- Where Are You Looking? Message-ID: <545@topaz.ARPA> Date: Thu, 7-Feb-85 11:11:47 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.545 Posted: Thu Feb 7 11:11:47 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Feb-85 05:48:21 EST References: <280@water.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 15 > I myself am a conservative, but I don't like seeing ridiculous lies being > spread about anyone, even a socialist. Most of the ones of my acquaintance > are rather good people who earnestly want to solve real problems in society, > by spending other people's money. > Jim Tubman This characterization of most socialists is (a) true, and (b) irrelevant. Socialism (collectivism) is an example of the "tragedy of the commons" in group moral behavior. The end result of the interaction of people under the socialist paradigm, and I'm assuming that most of them are ordinary, decent people (like Germans were--pre-Nazi Germany was the MOST liberal/tolerant country in Europe), is a collective result much worse than most of them would have imagined. --JoSH