Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!ihuxn!jho From: jho@ihuxn.UUCP (Yosi Hoshen) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: To Yosi Hoshen re. Anti-Mormon T.V. program Message-ID: <956@ihuxn.UUCP> Date: Thu, 7-Feb-85 14:16:45 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxn.956 Posted: Thu Feb 7 14:16:45 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 9-Feb-85 04:41:30 EST References: <450@decwrl.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 41 Dear Ken Arndt, You seem to have some questions regarding my motives/intentions /beliefs/sources for my posting. So let me clarify some of them. >I'm sure that there is an old Hebrew saying that describes every situation, >thanks for one more for my bag. The Jews are a people who are true 'word >smiths', perhaps because of the place the 'word' has in their traditions. >Seen the book, Joys of Yiddish? [ARNDT] I have used the Hebrew saying "The camel does not see its hump" to describe the fundamentalists' attitude towards the Mormons. The producers of the anti-Mormon propaganda piece titled "The GodMakers" charged that Mormons cannot prove their claims. I thought that this is a rather ludicrous charge, since the fundamentalists are not more successful in proving their claims. I don't think that the above Hebrew Saying is derived from Yiddish. It is more likely originated from Arabic. >By the way, can you as a Hebrew 'prove your religion'? Just thought I'd ask. > >I find it just a bit ironic for a Jew to look askance at someone who holds >their(their) religion to be the 'true' one and others to be false. Don't >you???? My dear Arndt where did you get the notion that I have a religion? Or that I hold the Jewish religion to be 'true'. I am Jewish, but I don't consider the Jewish religion to be true. (I don't understand what the word true means). Until proven otherwise, I consider the Jewish religion, Christianity, Mormonism, Catholicism, Helenism, etc to be a form of superstition, and deities such as Jehovah, Zeus, Odin, (and let us not forget Ubizmo) creatures of the human imagination. I see no more evidence for the existence of the above gods than evidence for fairy tale creatures such as the Wizard of Oz. My only objections are to religious and anti-religious coercion and intolerance. If the GodMaker program was produced by Jews, Moslems, Ubizmoists, or Atheists, I would be just as critical. -- Yosi Hoshen, Bell Laboratories Naperville, Illinois, (312)-979-7321, Mail: ihnp4!ihuxn!jho