Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP
Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site bunker.UUCP
Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!ihnp4!mhuxn!mhuxm!mhuxj!houxm!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!bunker!garys
From: garys@bunker.UUCP (Gary M. Samuelson)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: Litmus Test for Pro-Life Sincerity
Message-ID: <709@bunker.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 7-Feb-85 11:15:07 EST
Article-I.D.: bunker.709
Posted: Thu Feb  7 11:15:07 1985
Date-Received: Sat, 9-Feb-85 05:34:40 EST
References: <582@charm.UUCP>
Organization: Bunker Ramo, Trumbull Ct
Lines: 48

>  I know that a lot of you out there believe firmly that human life begins
> at conception, and you would like to establish that definition in law. 
> But before you make that definition into a law for everyone else-- or
> even argue about it much more-- I would like to see how sincerely you
> believe it and act on it yourselves.
> 
> How many of you have held-- or even thought of holding-- funeral
> services or Last Rites for an abortion?... For a stillbirth?... For a
> miscarriage?...

Funeral services are expensive (I don't even want a funeral for myself).
The church I attend doesn't have "Last Rites."  But women who have
had abortions, stillbirths, and miscarriages do experience (in some
cases) the same type of grief as mothers who have lost a child after
birth; this grief must be dealt with through something which takes
the place of a funeral.  The women I know who have had miscarriages
say, "I lost my baby," and have to resolve their grief just as if
the baby had died after birth.

Would anyone like to discuss the emotional effects of an abortion
on the woman who has one?  I would like to know, and I think it
would be a welcome change to the group.

> For the menstrual flow from The Pill?
> Since The Pill does discharge fertilized ova in their first month,

I thought The Pill acted by preventing ovulation.  But in either
case, I can't campaign against everything I don't like, so I have
to choose things where I think there is a possibility of having
an effect.

> In short-- If you can indeed prove through your actions that you respect
> and honor the life of a fetus (even in the first trimster) as much as
> you honor an adult human life, then I respect your opinion.  If not, then
> I smell a double standard.

No doubt none of us are completely free of double standards; but that's
why "standards" are also called "ideals" -- something to reach for,
though a lifetime may not be enough to attain it.

> 		--Bill Softky
> ("Why aren't Born-Again Christians called Conceived-Again Christians?")

That gave me a chuckle.  I suppose it would be difficult to identify the
moment of conception-again.

Gary Samuelson
ittvax!bunker!garys