Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site unmvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!lanl!unmvax!cliff From: cliff@unmvax.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: What is a libertarian go[u]verment? Message-ID: <663@unmvax.UUCP> Date: Sun, 10-Feb-85 19:31:50 EST Article-I.D.: unmvax.663 Posted: Sun Feb 10 19:31:50 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 13-Feb-85 02:44:46 EST References: <421@klipper.UUCP> <627@unmvax.UUCP> <6306@boring.UUCP> <705@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Organization: Univ. of New Mexico, Albuquerque Lines: 29 >In article <6306@boring.UUCP> jack@boring.UUCP (Jack Jansen) writes: >>In article <627@unmvax.UUCP> cliff@unmvax.UUCP writes: >>>convicted criminal can either cough up sufficient money to pay for his trial >>>incarceration, etc. or face deportation) >>First law of Libertaria: It is illegal to murder, rape, steal or cheat, >>unless you have enough money to bribe the government. > >Such utter bull. I'll concede that cliff chose a poor phrasing, but that's >about it. What is the problem? I said that [a] CONVICTED criminal can either cough up sufficient money to pay for his trial[,] incarceration, etc. What does that have to do with bribery? If the government were to be crooked it would make more sense to convict more people to get them to pay court costs, although that has nothing to do with paying for the expense of a trial. Are you saying that in Libertaria they have crooked courts since it is possible to bribe judges and then explaining that the reason you know Liberaria allows judges to be bribed is because of their crooked courts? If you want to talk about what some of the differences between the conviction of suspects in the U.S. and in Libertaria, then go ahead, but don't say that because convicted criminals would be require to pay for the cost they inflicted to the government that bribery is implied. --Cliff [Matthews] {purdue, cmcl2, ihnp4}!lanl!unmvax!cliff {csu-cs, pur-ee, convex, gatech, ucbvax}!unmvax!cliff 4744 Trumbull S.E. - Albuquerque NM 87108 - (505) 265-9143