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From: berger@aecom.UUCP
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Subject: Re: Re: Re: questions
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Date: Wed, 6-Feb-85 01:15:07 EST
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Posted: Wed Feb  6 01:15:07 1985
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>> David Esan  (!moscom!de)
> 
> 
>> We hold that G-d does not have a form and is everywhere.  If you check his
>> appearances to the Patriarchs you will find that he always appeared in a
>> dream.  Moses is the single person in the Bible to whom G-d spoke face to
>> face.
> 
> Well, perhaps.  "You cannot  see My face, for Man shall not see Me and live."
>    --Exodus XXXIII, 20.
>    "...I will put you in a cleft of the rock, and it shall come to pass
>     while My glory passes by, that I will put you in a cleft of the rock,
>     and will cover you with My hand until I have passed by.  And I will
>     take away My hand, and you shall see my back; but my face shall
>     not be seen."   --Exodus XXXIII, 22-23.
> 

I understood this to mean that no human being can perceive the ultamite truth.
That, if such a thing could be perceived, there would be no point to existance,
no stuggle to choose good over evil. Just as His hand is an aligorical 
reference to His might, His face would refer to His understanding. I beleive  
that Adam was punished with death because after eating the tree of knowledge
of good and evil, if man existed forever he would inevitabely perfect himself.
Of course, I could be wrong, further comments are requested.

> I won't make the claim that I'm a decendent of David; but I might be.
> In fact, if someone could prove to me tomorrow that I was, I'd probably
> say, "Well, how about that?" and go right on with my business.
> 
But then again, you're not claiming to be the king of peice either.

                                      michab