Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Professor Wagstaff) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle... Message-ID: <528@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 13-Feb-85 10:28:48 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.528 Posted: Wed Feb 13 10:28:48 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Feb-85 02:40:32 EST References: <253@unm-la.UUCP> <3170@umcp-cs.UUCP> Organization: Huxley College Lines: 33 ... than it is for some people to "see their own humps". >>But as Charley Wingate would say, "Are Eastern Orthodox childrens' minds so >>fragile that they need to be protected from proselytizers?" How ironic! >>Maybe the final solution is to let all the proselytizing churches proselytize >>themselves into oblivion, and leave the rest of us alone. [BILL PETER] > I entirely sympathize with the archbishop's complaint, and I might add that > members of non-evangelical denominations in the USA are also subjected to > such treatment. This kind of behavior can only imply that the Eastern > Orthodox (for example) are not to be considered christian-- hardly the way > one wins ecumenical friends. [CHARLIE WINGATE] Is Charlie saying that because the Orthodox Church has been a victim of proselytizing, it is therefore non-christian (since "Christians" are asking members of that church to "convert")? Or is he saying that because they reject such proselytizing they don't qualify as christian? It's difficult to decipher the intended meaning. (Note the use of the word _c_h_r_i_s_t_i_a_n with no capitalization. I'm confused as to what Charlie means when he says Christian, christian, and "christian" (the last is used when Christians (sp??) invoke intolerance by Charlie). > Notice, however, that the archbishop did not demand rules to prevent these > proselytizers from continuing in their practices. There seems to be a > problem in this newsgroup in distinguishing moral persuasion (what the > archbishop is doing) and moral coercion (writing "morality" into law). This has got to be one of the single most twisted double standards I've ever seen in any newsgroup. (Charlie's own double standard regarding the "unseriousness" of the heterosexuality questionnaire came close.) -- Otology recapitulates phonology. Rich Rosen {ihnp4|harpo}!pyuxd!rlr