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From: arnold@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Ken Arnold%CGL)
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Subject: Re: Mormons are not Christians.
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Date: Sat, 9-Feb-85 14:14:30 EST
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Summary: 

>> = me
> = Stephen Hutchison

>
>Uhhhhhhh.... While I agree that there have been differences of belief, and
>that doctrines of Trinity, f'rinstance, have been points of dissension,
>I have to point out here that when major deviations from the teachings about
>salvation and justification occur, they usually occur because of ignorance
>of the New Testament writings, or because of revisionism (Gee, I don't like
>this particular bit of theology, so I will claim that Paul, or Peter, or John,
>was actually lying/misinterpreted here, and...)
>
>   [ Some corrections to my example of "good works" vis-a-vis Catholic
>     sainthood ]

The first paragraph claims that the problem has been "ignorance" and
"revisionism".  I will not be the first person to point out that the
recorded statments of Jesus and the apostles are subject to wide
interpretation, even if they are read in the original Greek.  One
preson's "revisionism" is another person's truth.  For example, the
discussion going on about whether premarital sex is proscripted, or as
strongly proscripted as adultery, shows that there can be several
linguistically valid interpretations of the same phrase.  The concept
of Trinity is not Biblical.  It was added to Catholicism later, was the
cause of a great schism within the early church.  Another great
unsolvable is whether God and Jesus are one, or whether Jesus, being
the Son, was created later and is the servant of the Father.  There is
NO clear cut discussion of these important theological points in the
Bible.  So who is right depends not on a judgement of "ignorance" or
"revisionism", but on discussion and argument and personal belief.

I, also, am not Catholic, so I am quite willing to believe that I
made some subtle but theologically crucial point.  Any corrections are
appreciated.
-- 

		Ken Arnold
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