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From: chabot@6166.DEC (l s chabot)
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Subject: racism
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Date: Tue, 12-Feb-85 16:36:33 EST
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Posted: Tue Feb 12 16:36:33 1985
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Andy Bindman  ==  >
> [Blacks] have been subjected to centuries of disadvantage. What you are
> saying is like telling a person who is in a race, where their oponent was
> given a 10 yard head-start, that its now time for everything to be equal. Dont
> forget that there was a United White Persons College Fund and affirmative
> action for whites for years. Its just now that blacks and other minorities are
> getting a chance.Things wont be "equal" until we get everyone in the race up
> to the same place. Then we can ignor color and treat everyone the same. 

amdahl!gam  ==  <
< You know, there are a lot more Asians in the "hard sciences" that either
< Whites or other minorities.  I think we should make laws to prefer non-Asians
< to Asians in mathematics, genetics, and computer science jobs.  Until the
< non-Asians are up with the Asians.  And then we can call it "Affirmative
< Action" so that it sounds like a good thing to do. 
< 
< But did you know that Affirmative Action doesn't help poor Blacks? It helps
< middle- and upper-class Blacks, but not the poor. Yet another well-intended
< government program goes awry. 

Oh, yes, let's define a program as a failure because it doesn't help everybody.
Yes, let's.  Okay, "Affirmative Action doesn't help poor Blacks".  Nice 
indefensible statement: obviously any blacks who were poor and are now 
benefitted, why they've got jobs, middle-class jobs, so they're no longer poor!
Besides, it's even easier to just condemn a program because it doesn't help
anyway.  Good grief, religions help some, but not everyone, so let's condemn
them too.  What else doesn't work for everyone...hmmm, how about the defense
department--it *kills* some people, so it can't be good for *them*.

The argument about asians vs non-asians neatly ignores the problem of slavery
and discrimination in the US.  Pretty tidy, eh?  Why, we can just ignore
Selma!  Besides, the asian railroad workers can be brought up, and internment
camps.  Who really cares that it's not comparable to centuries of slavery, or
that non- asians were never slaves of asians here, or vice-versa. 

But while we're at it, let's cut down on the inordinate number of male flamers
in net.flame.

L S Chabot
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Posted:	Tue 12-Feb-1985 16:36 
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