Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!jeff From: jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) Newsgroups: net.sport.hockey Subject: Re: Rookie of the year Message-ID: <1389@dciem.UUCP> Date: Thu, 14-Feb-85 09:16:34 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.1389 Posted: Thu Feb 14 09:16:34 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 14-Feb-85 11:56:58 EST References: <3822@ucla-cs.ARPA><1381@dciem.UUCP> Reply-To: jeff@dciem.UUCP (Jeff Richardson) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 29 Summary: > Chelios played (I think) > about eight regular-season games last year, as well as the full > playoffs, a total of almost 25 games. He's damn good, but is he a > rookie? Chelios IS eligible for the Calder Trophy. I neglected to mention in my original posting that the 25 games in one season (or 6 in each of two seasons) required to make a player ineligible for the Calder must be regular season games. Playoff games don't count. I'm not sure whether his combined regular-season and playoff total was more than 25 games, but Ken Dryden was able to win the Conn Smythe Trophy for the 1971 playoffs, and then take the Calder the following year because he played fewer than 25 games in the 70-71 regular season. He's the only player ever to win the Calder after having already won another NHL trophy. This may seem unreasonable, since the playoff experience Dryden and Chelios got is probably worth at least a full regular season, but it makes sense if you consider that the Calder Trophy is supposed to be awarded based solely on the player's performance in the regular season. However, I don't think the voting is done until after the playoffs, so I find it hard to believe that if a player has a good playoff, it won't influence the voting (same goes for the other trophies that require voting, especially the Selke because there aren't any real stats to go on for best defensive forward). With each team playing most other teams only three times during the regular season, the writers who do the voting don't have much to go on unless they see the players in the playoffs. -- Jeff Richardson, DCIEM, Toronto (416) 635-2073 {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd}!utcsrgv!dciem!jeff {allegra,ihnp4,linus,decvax}!utzoo!dciem!jeff