Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site sdcrdcf.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!sdcrdcf!darrelj From: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Newsgroups: net.lang.st80 Subject: Re: A real Smalltalk product announcement Message-ID: <1246@sdcrdcf.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Aug-84 00:36:00 EDT Article-I.D.: sdcrdcf.1246 Posted: Fri Aug 17 00:36:00 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 13-Aug-84 00:14:57 EDT References: <175@cornell.UUCP> Reply-To: darrelj@sdcrdcf.UUCP (Darrel VanBuer) Organization: System Development Corporation, Santa Monica Lines: 26 The Tektronics announcement is actually for Pegasus, a successor to the internal Magnolia machine. Reportly, the only faster Smalltalk machine is the ($120k) Xerox Dorado, and has the advantage of a large pointer size. Smalltalk and Lisp have a number of common features making them both suitable for AI work. High among these features are flexible data structuring tools, an automatic garbage collector, and powerful interactive debugging tools. Also, both have been thoroughly integrated into a multiwindowing, graphic environment (not all lisps of course). The most outstanding feature of the Pagasus is it's price. The next lowest price for a comparable environment is a $26,000 for a Xerox Dandelion (with Interlisp-D and a real 1024x808 screen). Machines like Suns aren't really in this league (yet) because most of the windowing features are just grafted onto the edges of unix (there isn't a moused-based editor, for example). -- Darrel J. Van Buer, PhD System Development Corp. 2500 Colorado Ave Santa Monica, CA 90406 (213)820-4111 x5449 ...{allegra,burdvax,cbosgd,hplabs,ihnp4,orstcs,sdcsvax,ucla-cs,akgua} !sdcrdcf!darrelj VANBUER@USC-ECL.ARPA