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From: dpw@rayssd.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.singles
Subject: Re: children & religion/homosexuality
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Date: Sat, 4-Aug-84 15:40:38 EDT
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Posted: Sat Aug  4 15:40:38 1984
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	I must take stong exception to your article.

>presumably most of us are single and therefore have no children, and 
>therefore no reason for these topics.

Allow me to enlighten you in the "flaw's in this logic".  Single is a
state of being unmarried.  This is not to be confuse with never married.
Devorci is the legal dissolution of a marriage.  A process of law, not
a state of being.  I was divorce therefore I am know single.

Now that we have the meanings cleared up lets talk about singles.  Most
marriages have childred.  I don't know the percentage but I am sure that 
it is above 75% .  The divorce rate is now over 50%, that is a lot of single
parents.  These single parents have more problems than you could ever dream of
having.  For example the data clerk that makes $5.00 an hour which make his/her
take home pay about $600 month.  If this parent is a female she will get some
child support, maybe $200 (which can not be depended on).  If this single 
parent is a male, he probably doesn't get any. (I don't) Now you have this
single parent that has $800 a month to live on.  Here is how it breaks down:

	Rent: 		$220.00		(substandard apartment)
	Daycare          180.00		(just a day, not preschool) 
	Food:		 200.00         (cut every corner)
	Electric:	  50.00         (making sure the kids don't leave
					 light on)
        Transportation:   50.00         (taking buses, a car is a impossible
					 dream)
        heating           50.00         (keep it turned down to 60)
                      ---------
                        $750.00         ($50.00 left for spending money
                                         like clothes, Dr. bills, etc.)

With this type of budget there is no change to even save for that rainning
day.  You know the one when the three year comes down with the chicken pots
and can't go to daycare.  This is the nightmare that all single parents 
face.  You can't leave the sick child home alone, but you used all of vaction
and sick leave that you had when he had the flu.  Now what ?  Sorry I don't
have an answer for this.  If you stay home with this child the best you can
hope for is losing pay for that time.  But if happen to often, you won't have
a job.  Either way your budget go out the window.   

>if you can find a flaw in this logic, then you probably have no need of the
>rest of us in your little world anyway.

Forgive me I didn't know that I was in the presents of someone that is perfect.
I didn't mean bust your bubble that your have build your little world in.  The
Hell I didn't !  From your comment I can infer that you have never been married
and have no children and that you consider anyone that has became single again
as somehow unclean, unpure, spoiled, or otherwise unworthy of being single.
What gives you the right to say that just because that I am single and have
children that I should look for another news group.  You maybe say that I am
just bitter over my condition.  If you did you would 100% wrong.  I am a Sr.
Design Associate and make quiet a bit more than $800 a month.  The reason
that this make my blood boil is that I am a team member of the Beginning
Experience which is a self growth experience for people that has experience
a loss of a love one and also Separated, Divorced, Remarried and Widowed
both are find groups.  Both were formed by the Catholic Church which I am
not nor do I plan to be a member of.  I see so many people come to these
progrprograms that are hurting because of their loss.  They are trying so hard
to put their life back together and to you and your to treat this very large
of single people like dirty makes me as mad as hell.  These people have paid
their dues and then some.  Many women will stay in a marriage because they
can not afford to get out, even that she and her children are being abuse daily.I the numbers of times this is the case is a lot more that what most believe.
This is because you will never hear about it until she gets enough guts to
leave.  Then she is always ask "why did you take that kind of abuse so long ?"
I would say that every woman that get out of a bad marriage like that there
is one who has giving up hope of getting out.

Sorry for this being so long and for any grammer/spelling error.

Darryl Wagoner
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