Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!amd!decwrl!decvax!cca!ima!ism780b!jim From: jim@ism780b.UUCP Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: Re: Free [Will, Lunch, Software] - (nf) Message-ID: <34@ism780b.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Aug-84 00:29:52 EDT Article-I.D.: ism780b.34 Posted: Wed Aug 1 00:29:52 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 29-Jul-84 00:06:54 EDT Lines: 20 #R:houca:-44800:ism780b:27500021:000:831 ism780b!jim Jul 20 12:29:00 1984 > But the fact remains that the particle must be somewhere. No so, because the universe does not really contain "particles". "Particle" is merely an organizing concept which human beings use to try to get a handle on what is really there. When you get to a finer level, you start using the organizing concept "probability wave function". > My premise was that whoever or whatever was analyzing the universe > had the means to determine these things. Not if you believe, as many physicists seem to, that the universe itself has "free will", it has multiple possible futures, no one of which alone is implicit in the current state. According to the multiple-worlds model, they are all implicit and they all "happen", and the one you see is just the one that this "you" happened in. -- Jim Balter, INTERACTIVE Systems (ima!jim)