Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mouton.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mouton!mwg From: mwg@mouton.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sci,net.philosophy Subject: Re: Mind and Brain and Ki Message-ID: <118@mouton.UUCP> Date: Fri, 3-Aug-84 09:33:10 EDT Article-I.D.: mouton.118 Posted: Fri Aug 3 09:33:10 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Aug-84 02:45:53 EDT References: <215@imsvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 29 ++ > On the other hand, if he says, "This is true, but I can't prove it.", > then I'll laugh in his face and tell him to move to net.religion :-). > Ray Chen I don't know how serious you were about that, Ray, but I think a lot of people take just that attitude, leaving a lot of possibly interesting phenomenae to be explored without the benifit of the famed scientific method. No one is saying that quasi-unnatural effects should be accepted without doubt (even after rigorous 'scientific' proof, there is room for doubt). A lot of people are saying "PSI does not exist," as if they're experts or something. What if I say electrons don't exist because I've never seen any evidence for them? Does any one know of any people who try to investigate this stuff properly (without getting laughed in the face by their would-be sponsers)? I suspect that if it were checked out, we would find quite natural (by as yet unknown) explanations for 95% of it. (And maybe expand our vision of 'science' a little for the other 5%.) When you people say PSI (and all that other mumbo-jumbo) doesn't exist, how do you explain (to yourself) the existence of acupuncture, all those wierd things the asians do with karate, aikido, ta-chien (no, wait, that's chicken...whatever), etc, and all the reports of ghosts, UFOs and so on. Do you just ignore it, or are you satisfied to say, "I don't know, I don't want to know." Doesn't sound very scientific to me! - Mark BCR