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From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton)
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Subject: Re: getting at roots of abortion
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Date: Mon, 30-Jul-84 17:42:38 EDT
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Ah, Brian, but you didn't keep asking why!

Now you are off and talking about ``society defining itself''.
Where did this come from? I can tell you one thing -- soceity does
not go about defining itself -- somebody makes some generalisations
about society, publishes them, and that gets to be what society is
about.

Is there really ``the ME generation?'' what about ``the silent generation''?
William Buckley says that he is a member of the silent genration, and he
sure isn't silent.

So we need a definition of society. How about this:

	A society is a collection of individuals who are held
	together either by force or threat of force by certain
	ruling individual(s), or by voluntary association.

Not that that was not an ``xor'' up there. Now you have a definition
of society which does not go about asking whether every individual is a 
member. You can assume that all teh members of a society are there
either because they are forced to be there whether they want to or not,
or because they want to be there. 

You would then have to look at which laws have proven appropriate for
voluntary associatings on individuals.

The other thing to consider is that though new babies do cost money,
there is a lot of money in North America which would voluntarily go
(ie we don't need state supported housing for babies that are
allowed to go to term rather than aborted) to feed and clothe
North American babies. To begin with, there are a lot of parents
who want to adopt, and even if you decided to exclude them for
some reason, there are a lot of charitable organisations which
regularily collect a lot of money and do various things with it.
This money could be directed towards orphans at home as easily as
orphans abroad. Indeed, there are a good many people who do
not wish to support programs of foreign aid who would be willing
to support programs of domestic aid.

I do not know about the Unites States, but in Canada it
was calculated (by someone I do nopt recognise and who may
be lying) that if all the money that was spent by the various
provincial public health agencies was combined with the
money which the Pro Life groups have spent on promoting their
cause there would be enough money to raise every aborted fetus
in Canada, with a good bit left over.

Of course, the figures will we as inexact as such figures always
are, but it makes you stop and wonder. How much are those
unwanted fetuses actually going to cost us anyway?

Laura Creighton
utzoo!laura