Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxa.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxa!wetcw From: wetcw@pyuxa.UUCP (T C Wheeler) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: makeup (offensive to the easily angered) Message-ID: <954@pyuxa.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Aug-84 09:52:25 EDT Article-I.D.: pyuxa.954 Posted: Tue Aug 14 09:52:25 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 15-Aug-84 01:26:44 EDT References: <777@ihuxe.UUCP>, <1131@psuvax1.UUCP> Organization: Bell Communications Research, Piscataway N.J. Lines: 58 All of this talk about makeup leads me to put my .02 cents worth in. Some women need all the help (men too) they can get and some don't need any help at all. There are a few women around our workplace that seem to be on a "I vant to look lousy" kick. They are, or could be, reasonably nice looking, but when they comb their hair with a fan and wear clothes that look like they came out of a dustbin, they become turnoffs and people avoid them. They do not appear to have any pride in themselves and as a result, pass this feeling to others. Guys steer clear as there is a feeling that if you talk to them, all you will get is a earfull of their problems. A nice appearence, and that includes whatever amount of makeup it takes to achieve that appearence, lets others know that you are at least receptive to a "hello". Of course, makeup can be overdone. Getting spritzed up to go out on a Bluefishing trip is not a good idea as your going to smell like a fish in an hour anyway. But, looking like something the cat dragged in around the office is not too popular either. (This goes for the guys too.) I don't consider anyone who presents a nice appearence as being "on the prowl". I think of them as having a good feeling about themselves. The amount and type of makeup a woman uses depends on the individual. Some women need all the help they can get and some need no help at all. It's the end result that counts. This goes for the men too, in choosing clothes, hair styles, and anything else. People tend to get quite a bit of their feelings about others by sight. If a person looks nice, then we open up more to them. If they appear to be dragged out and dour, we hold back. It's not until we break through that first impression that we find someone else. But, getting through to that person we don't know becomes an easier process if we are not afraid to talk to the person. A persons looks play a big part in that first impression. How many of you would have walked up to Mr T at first sight and started a conversation? Although he looks mean, he is a pussy cat. The point is, because he looks mean, most people would never approach him. The idea of appearence affecting peoples reactions to other people is pretty basic. Anything that can be done to ease peoples uneasyness to make contact should be remembered. I don't know where I just came from or where I went with this bit of rambling, but what I guess I am trying to say is appearence is important in establishing a dialouge. Sometimes Mother Nature needs a little help to polish that appearence. If all it takes is a dab here or there or six tubs of goo, then do it. On the other hand, learn when to stop putting it on too. As for the guys, the navel button, sixteen gold chain look at work is overdoing it also. If your'e going to look like a Blob, people are going to treat you like a Blob. Now, if I can back out of this gracefully, I will await the flames. I do not mean to denigrate any group here. I am just trying to put my perspective on appearence in the workplace. There are more lousy looking guys around than women, but women have a much better chance to do something about it than men. T. C. Wheeler