Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!tekecs!jeffw From: jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: rape and Redbook fantasies Message-ID: <3990@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-Aug-84 11:17:44 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.3990 Posted: Tue Aug 21 11:17:44 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Aug-84 04:51:20 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 19 Before anyone comes out with their favorite woman-hating conspiracy theory involving Redbook, I thought I'd submit my fiancee's reaction, as well as I understand it. The fantasy of being forced to have sex would legally be rape if it occured in reality, but the fantasies referred to in Redbook have little or no similarity to actual rapes. The male in the fantasy is a specific person, not some random rapacious bozo off the street. The reason the act would be forced is not because the woman doesn't have the hots for him, but because of the real-life consequences if she did do it (doesn't want to get emotionally involved, husband would be hurt if he found out, etc.). And finally, these fantasies (masochists excepted) involve none of the sadism which seems to be the primary feature of real rapes. In short, no one should construe these fantasies as evidence that women like to be raped (which I believe was the concern expressed). Smile, Jeff Winslow