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From: rml@hpfcls.UUCP (rml)
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Subject: Re: Re: Moral Dillema (sic)
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Date: Wed, 15-Aug-84 19:34:00 EDT
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> There are many foods which  are  by-products  of  animals/plants,
> that involve no killing to harvest/process/consume.  One of these 
> foods  is  johns's unfertilized eggs (also apples, milk, walnuts,
> cheese).

Eating a walnut (or any other form of seed) is the vegetable kingdom
analogue of eating a fertile egg, which is how this whole discussion
began.  As for dairy products, there is no direct killing involved.
Taking the milk from a mother can be construed as stealing food from the
offspring, but with modern breeds of dairy animals which have been bred
to produce more milk than their own offspring can consume this is not an
accurate picture of the situation.  Since my dietary concerns are more
related to health and to harmony with nature than to morality, I
personally would not choose foods produced by human intervention
(selective breeding or separation of sexes) in order to avoid violence.
That is why I previously mentioned fruits as what I consider to be the
only totally non-violent foods (assuming the seeds are not damaged).

				Bob Lenk
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