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From: schwab@iuvax.UUCP
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Subject: Re: so long
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Date: Sun, 5-Aug-84 23:25:00 EDT
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Nf-From: iuvax!schwab    Aug  5 22:25:00 1984


Well, I do hope that this means we will hear no more from Ken in this
news group. I have no problem with people raising questions and
encouraging discussion if they have an open mind, but Ken, in spite
of his constant reiteration of the I'm-trying-to-discuss-things-
rationally-but-you-never-respond-logically message, has already 
decided the issue. I'd be very interested to know what his motives
were for such extensive and drawn out contributions.

Ken makes one mistake when he talks about gay ideology. There isn't
any. If he would read the gay press he would find running battles
about paedophilia, pornography, politics, etc. Of course, the main
feature of "gay ideology" that he assails is the statement:
"I can not help the fact that I'm gay, so I am not responsible for
my homosexual acts, so the straight world should get off my back."
A lot of gays have made statements very like this. But the entire
question was of much more concern several years ago. Unless I am
wrong in reading attitudes, it is irrelevant to very many gay
people (I'll play it safe and not say most) what the reason(s)
for their homosexuality are and whether it is congenital, psychologically
acquired at an early age, or a conscious choice. If I can make a
personal statement along these lines: I am gay. I don't give a
damn about why I am. I wouldn't be any different. Ken's moral concerns
are completely irrelevant to me. People like Ken wouldn't be happy
unless everyone were Christian, monogamous, and heterosexual. Face
it, Ken, the Christian, monogamous heterosexuals are a minority in
this country and the world (by deed if not by word), Get off
our backs.

So long, Ken. Good riddance.

David Schwab
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