Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!pesnta!wjvax!ios!qubix!sun!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot From: chabot@amber.DEC (Lisa S. Chabot) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: disgusting! Message-ID: <2920@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Fri, 27-Jul-84 10:15:28 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2920 Posted: Fri Jul 27 10:15:28 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Aug-84 02:30:33 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 63 Um, I think I might need to make a small explanation: GEORGE = $ ( :-), ok?) LSChabot = ! $ I'm personally VERY straight. I think gays either have a hormonal $ imbalance (very small percentage) or are mentally disturbed.(much larger $ percentage) HOWEVER I do respect and will fight for their right to $ carry on their lives as they see fit. This is basic requirement of freedom. And then I said ! This outlook on single life, as expressed in phrases like "in the market" and ! "fork over the bucks for her", is a rather depressing one, and I think is ! a sign of some mental disturbance. [and I think I then went on to parallel GEORGE's remark about carrying on lives, but with some stinger about as long as it's not around me] Probably by the time most of you got mine, GEORGE's letter was not quite so fresh in your mind (or minds), so the parallelism, which was supposed to be humorous and soften the stab a bit, was lost. Hmm, let me take this chance to improve it... ! ... a sign of hormonal imbalance or mental disturbance. Now, I never saw anyone asking if Chuq was "going to pick up on this one" when GEORGE told us his opinions of the reasons for homosexual behavior. [um, and let me know if I missed some letters, okay? honest.] Both GEORGE's opinions and mine were aired in a forum in which we both knew people of the persuasion we were talking about would be listening. I can find reasons to show that my letter wasn't more personally directed than GEORGE's: although mine quoted GEORGE's letters and talked about the attitudes expressed therein (and I didn't mean to give the impression that I thought GEORGE was the only one with these attitudes); GEORGE's letter that is quoted at the top mentioned Trish in the title, and talked about the infamous Trish statement about adult male behavior; both letters began with a somewhat condemning opinion. So, why the disparity here? Why is the plaid warlock being called on this one and not the other? Survey time! 1) GEORGE's attitudes about gays are more accepted than LSChabot's criticism of commerce. [probably. sad, but true.] 2) Adult male behavior is not to be examined. [Especially not by someone whose first name is "Lisa", let alone by 10 year old female martians.] 3) My actions were inappropriate, because: 3a) I was rude (and ruder than I thought) [probably. I try.] 3b) Women shouldn't criticize men directly, but be supportive. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Lest anyone get too out of whack, let me say I said these things for us to think about, not to make pointed remarks about *anyone*. On the other hand, I do believe them to be widely held opinions. Not correct (except 3a), but ... Fishing for Better Ideas, L S Chabot UUCP: ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-amber!chabot ARPA: ...chabot%amber.DEC@decwrl.ARPA USFail: DEC, MR03-1/K20, 2 Iron Way, Marlborough, MA 01752