Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site shark.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!shark!hutch From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: American sportscasting : followup. Message-ID: <982@shark.UUCP> Date: Tue, 14-Aug-84 04:43:15 EDT Article-I.D.: shark.982 Posted: Tue Aug 14 04:43:15 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Aug-84 02:34:37 EDT References: <816@ihuxx.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 25 < ah luuuhves flames, they makes mah marshmallers nice n toasty > | "...You may not realize it, but this sense | of national identity and pride which you detest is a common part of | the human being and can be found in people from all countries. | ... | Hutch" | | Uh, not to jump into this too deeply...but please. Nationalism is a | product of the 17th century. Previous to that, loyalty tended to be to | your King; before that, increasingly smaller units of geography and/or | influence. (It's been suggested that the multinationals are the next | step in ever-increasing spheres of influence and commitment). | | Dave Ihnat ihuxx!ignatz Really? There was no Athens, no Sparta, no Carthage, no Rome, no Egypt under the Pharoahs, no Israel, no China, before the 17th century? ;-) Nationalism is a result of having nations. People will have loyalty to a family, which at the proper age seems to transfer or extend to a tribe or clan, thence (sometimes) to the identifiable "country" or "king" under whatever system is in place. Hutch (go ducks!) <- loyalty to alma mater == school patriotism