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From: dya@unc-c.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.micro
Subject: Re: S1 -- consider it fraud??
Message-ID: <1481@unc-c.UUCP>
Date: Sun, 5-Aug-84 15:08:03 EDT
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Posted: Sun Aug  5 15:08:03 1984
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     I have, on my very desk, an S1 brochure dated July, 1984. They claim
that the following is available:

            68000     Z80      Intel** (80,85,186,286,86)   16032

OEM config.  $850     $300        $200(8bit) to $ 950 (286)    $850
Pre config.   950      375         250       to  1100           950

      These guys must have one hell of a development staff.  Everything
through the 8085 is available, the 8086/88 is 7/84, the 186 in 8/84, the
286 in 10/84, the 16032 in 12/84. Not to mention SL, S1-Pascal (ISO with
extensions), S1-F77 (with extensions) , S1-C (full K&R w.e.), S1-BASIC
(ANSI w.e.). BUT IF THIS WERE NOT ENOUGH:

8/84: UCSD Pascal translator
      Microsoft BASIC 5.x(BASIC-80) translator
      C BASIC translator

10/84: S11 COBOL(74) w.e.
       S1 Modula-2 w.e.

1/84:  HP Basic converter
       DEC BASIC PLUS/PLUS2 convertor
       Pascal/MT ""
       OMSI Pascal/2 Convertor
       Pascal/VS convertor

2/85:  S1-PL/1
       S1-Ada
       S1-Lisp
       S1-Snobol

AND a cross assembler. . . . . . . .

       Uh, looks more impressive than the original Electronics (Week) ad.
What next: S1 to run on a Burroughs B6900? I was always taught that writing
a compiler was a several man-month to a couple of man-year project. When I
was looking for a C compiler, Tartan (who has a real product and a production
compiler-compiler) quoted me 4 more months of development time for the 68K
version.  As for operating systems, this is supposed to be a several man-year
project...for something that "does it all."

    Either these guys are pulling the scam of the century OR someone has been
raising computer engineers from birth for this project.  This brochure is
packed with information which makes even automobile brochures seem to promise
nothing. k

    When are these guys going to have S1 running on the 6809 in mu Z-TAC cable
box? -:)

-dya-

Seriously. Write for the brochure. It's
MSI
Suite 207
123 Franklin Corner Road
Lawrenceville, NJ 08648
(609) 896-4100

CP/M is a trademark of DIgital Research. UCSD is a trademark of the Regents
of the U. of Ca. system. S1 and SL of MSI. PASCAL/MT of Digital Research.
Z80 of Zilog Corp. HP of Hewlett-Packard. DEC and Basic PLUS/PLUSII of
Digital Equipment Corp. ADA of D.O.D.