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From: rap@oliven.UUCP
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: more on atheism
Message-ID: <314@oliven.UUCP>
Date: Tue, 31-Jul-84 00:53:15 EDT
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Posted: Tue Jul 31 00:53:15 1984
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>> The thing to remember is that both psychic phenomena and religious experience
>> are subjective, and therefore belief and disbelief make a definite difference.
>> Since this type of thing doesn't fit very well with scientific provability,
>> it is easy to ridicule, but it makes sense psychologically.  There is plenty
>> of evidence with weight-lifting and other physical activity that if you don't
>> believe that you can do something, you have less chance of doing it.  Why
>> shouldn't this apply even more for something that is totally subjective?
>
>And what this passage from John Owens indicates is that, as many have been
>trying to say, the power of belief is very strong, and DOES have a positive
>effect on the believer.

And for you Christian people, a quote from Matthew 17:20
   ... I tell you the truth, If you have faith as small as a mustard seed,
   you can say to this mountain, 'Move from here to there' and it will move.
   Nothing will be impossible to you.

See also, Matthew 21:21 and 21:22.

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					Robert A. Pease
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