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From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo)
Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: Who is a Jew
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Date: Fri, 17-Aug-84 04:22:27 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug 17 04:22:27 1984
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In a jewish philosophy course I took in college I read a passage 
>by Maimonides which defined exactly who is a jew.  Unfortunately my copy
>of Maimonides excerps is in another city.   Can someone quote the passage
>(It is probably the most referenced section of his extremely referenced work
>so I think it should be no problem finding it.)  
>FLAME:
>Anyway I also suggest that 
>if Mr Martillo does not want to consider me to be in the same people as he
>then he is no longer jewish because I am.  I often violate talmudic law but
>that is insufficient to exclude me from Judaism according to Jewish law.
>(I think that even if I were to be excomunicated I would still be jewish 
>but am not sure.)  The fact that Mr. Martillo is ashamed of most of the 
>Jews of the world (or at least a substantial percentage) should not act to
>confuse people about important facts like just who is a Jew.  Otherwise
>I would not respond to his overemotional postings  (In other words I have
>to be fairly annoyed before I flame).

If David Sher had bothered to read my article, he would have noted I was
not offering a criterion for Jewishness but rather a criterion  for  the
privilege of taking part within the Jewish community.

I  have  Maltese  citizenship.   I  neither  speak  Maltese  nor do I no
anything about Maltese culture.  I have  also  never  lived  within  the
Maltese  community.   I  would  have  a  lot a nerve to try to tell true
Maltese how to run Malta especially  if  on  the  basis  of  my  limited
experience I tried to claim there was no Maltese community.

Joaquim Martillo