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From: mark@teltone.UUCP (Mark McWiggins)
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Subject: Re: two of Kulawiec's
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Date: Fri, 24-Aug-84 01:28:10 EDT
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Posted: Fri Aug 24 01:28:10 1984
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> It's about time that those who claim deific justification
> for their cruel words and actions, and their blindness, realized
> just whose company they're in.

(the company referred to being Torquemada et al.)

> This one I can reservedly agree with, though I doubt that the motivations for
> all people who come across as cruel with a religious coloring are the same;
> e.g. some did it continually for years (the Inquisitors), while others do it
> sporadically (myself).I do it at times when I'm feeling generally rotten and
> confused about my relationship to God and unsure what He has in mind for me;

Apparently you are to figure it out for yourself.  A point I've often
wondered about: wouldn't a Serious God make it a little clearer about
what was the One True Way?

>> let me tell you something: if the god you
>> speak of comes back, I for one will start looking for sturdy trees
>> and good rope again; he's got a lot to answer for.

> Presumably this was in response to the article on "O My God", by The Police,
> in which someone stated that if God prevented all suffering, that would
> obviate the free will of humans (not to mention angelic and demonic beings).
> But why blame God for allowing free will?  Rather, blame Satan and the other
> demons, not to mention multitudes of uncaring, self-centered humans (I can say
> this, since I'm one of them), whose sins of commission and/or omission -- i.e.
> whose abuse of their free will -- are responsible for the suffering...

Why does God allow "Satan and the other demons" to muck things up so?
Certainly our free will is capable enough of getting us into trouble on
our own, if that is the idea?

> Anyway, why waste time fixing blame?  If there is suffering you don't like 
> to see, you can always do something about it...

Right on.  If you're waiting for God, it's going to be a long wait.
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