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Greetings:

> Is there evidence for PSI that explains something the physical model cannot
> account for? Apparently you can show us the aforementioned evidence?

No, I can't prove or show you, but if you'll check out the PBS broadcast NOVA
on this subject, "they" will show you some fairly convincing evidence.  Their
program was aired this past week, and may still be running?  Also, you might
investigate an L.A. based company named Delphi whose business is PSI.  Also,
you might check with SRI (Stanford Research Institute, now SRI International).

Separately, I add the following, which, from previous readings of these net
newsgroups, will only result in flames about scientific methodology being
lacking, but which I shall nevertheless present as the evidence which *first*
convinced *me* of the existence of PSI:
1)	I have, on *one* occasion, been the unwitting receiver of an
extrasensory message, which clearly demonstrated a mind to mind link.  The
sender of the message was my spouse's mother, who was experiencing the death
of her husband and was so distressed that she woke me from a sound sleep with
her mental "primal scream" of distress, some 30 miles away.  2 minutes later
she followed up with a phone call explaining that her husband was having a
heart-attack, and would we come right over to be with her.
2)	I have lived with a(nother)  mate who was not only extrasensorily
sensitive to what I was doing and where I was, but who on a couple occasions
experienced precognition (awareness of future events).

I shall not bother to provide details of these events, precisely because they
were unrepeatable, and not subject to investigation by scientific method.  Note
also, that they all occurred with people who were close enough to me already,
as to be considered "family" at the time.  Note also that I used to be a *firm*
unbeliever until item (1) above occurred to me.  I thoroughly believe in the
scientific method, and as a degreed engineer have been trained to apply same
to my entire approach to life.  Only personal experiences of PSI were able to
convince me that the scientific method simply won't find most PSI occurrances.
Why? because in most earthlings, PSI is too undeveloped an I/O channel to be
repeatable, or produced on demand in a laboratory setting.

Furthermore, I think that if you were to bother to do any serious investigation
of PSI phenomena which were verifiable and truly impressive, you'd find them to
be classified.  The DOD has PSychIcs working for them, and they are truly 
running scared because the USSR is ahead of us in PSI research, and in PSI-war.
There certainly is a parallel to cyphers:  at several prominant technical
conferences where scientific researchers intended to present advanced papers
on cryptography, Uncle Sam stepped in, said, sorry, but that's classified,
speak no further of this to the public, lest it fall into Russian hands.  I 
shall shut up now, before the men in the trenchcoats come to silence me.

Again, just because YOU haven't experienced it, and just becasue YOU can't
produce it in YOUR laboratory, doesn't mean that others haven't.

{ucbvax|decvax|ihnp4}!sun!sunny(Sunny Kirsten of Sun Microsystems)