Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site zehntel.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!mgnetp!ihnp4!zehntel!zinfandel!joe From: joe@zinfandel.UUCP Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Men and Women Different? - (nf) Message-ID: <1570@zehntel.UUCP> Date: Sat, 4-Aug-84 04:27:07 EDT Article-I.D.: zehntel.1570 Posted: Sat Aug 4 04:27:07 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Aug-84 05:47:04 EDT Sender: diana@zehntel.UUCP Organization: Zehntel Inc., Walnut Creek, CA Lines: 40 #N:zinfandel:10900048:000:1608 zinfandel!joe Aug 1 09:37:00 1984 Hi. It seems to me that there is a fundamental difference between men and women in the way they relate to sex, that is beyond the effects of socialization. I suggest that men on average are more driven sexually, in that they often exibit a frame of mind that was the root cause of any accidents the beautiful hot-dog vendor "caused". I can't imagine the average woman being so struck visually from a moving car by anything about the physical attractiveness of a person that she would crash her car. Also, another difference I perceive that I would like to mention is that men differentiate sex, character, and love, and that women do not. In the case of separating sex and character I often fantasize sexual relations with women I have never met, and the intricacies of their characters can add to the fantasy as I imagine it, but all that is necessary for a pleasurable fantasy is that I imagine a minimal awareness of the woman's mental state in that I believe she enjoys what we're doing. Beyond that I don't *need* to create a specific image. I am sometimes happy to attribute to her my ideas about "archtypal woman". It is as though I am making love to Woman, not *a* woman. This expresses the roots of my sexuality, and it frees me from *my* particulars. I become *man*, not *a* man, and I become the pure face of sexual communion. Of course women do this too but I believe that either they do it less or they express it a lot less, and in any case they don't mow down pedestrians doing it. What do you think? Joe Weinstein Zehntel Inc. 415-932-6900