Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site orca.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!ariels From: ariels@orca.UUCP (Ariel Shattan) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: rape and Redbook fantasies Message-ID: <1020@orca.UUCP> Date: Tue, 21-Aug-84 13:40:34 EDT Article-I.D.: orca.1020 Posted: Tue Aug 21 13:40:34 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Aug-84 04:52:22 EDT References: <3990@tekecs.UUCP> Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 30 >Before anyone comes out with their favorite woman-hating conspiracy theory >involving Redbook, I thought I'd submit my fiancee's reaction, as well >as I understand it. > >The fantasy of being forced to have sex would legally be rape if it occured >in reality, but the fantasies referred to in Redbook have little or no >similarity to actual rapes. The male in the fantasy is a specific person, >not some random rapacious bozo off the street. The reason the act would be >forced is not because the woman doesn't have the hots for him, but because >of the real-life consequences if she did do it (doesn't want to get emotionally >involved, husband would be hurt if he found out, etc.). And finally, these >fantasies (masochists excepted) involve none of the sadism which seems to be >the primary feature of real rapes. > >In short, no one should construe these fantasies as evidence that women like >to be raped (which I believe was the concern expressed). > > Smile, > Jeff Winslow Thank you, Jeff. An aquaintence of mine once voiced his opinion that women don't have "rape" fantasies, but "ravishment" fantasies. I think this is much more along the lines of what the Redbook respondants had in mind. Read a few Harliquin Romances and you'll get the idea. Ariel Shattan ..!tektronix!orca!ariels