Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site abnjh.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!whuxle!spuxll!abnjh!estate From: estate@abnjh.UUCP (D.R.Pierce) Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re: Gun Control again... A position Paper (please read) Message-ID: <778@abnjh.UUCP> Date: Thu, 2-Aug-84 09:57:35 EDT Article-I.D.: abnjh.778 Posted: Thu Aug 2 09:57:35 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 3-Aug-84 05:21:25 EDT References: <985@ihuxi.UUCP>, <806@ihuxp.UUCP> Organization: ATTIS, NJ Lines: 57 You stated that the number of people driving drunk is statistically small? It's estimated that on Memorial Day Weekend (how appropriate) one in ten drivers on the road were legally drunk ! I don't know about you but when 10% of the cars on the road are actually 1,000 pound bullets... I don't consider that to be statistically small ! I consider that to be a serious problem, any killings that come from it will be random and the victims will be innocent bystanders (that may be redundant)! (Sorry about getting away from the main subject, but it pisses me off to hear people poo-poo the problem of drunk driving. As far as I'm concerned, driving under the influence of any perception altering drug is the equivalent of aiming a loaded gun at someone AND pulling the trigger !) Now, back to matters at hand: You can thank God that the guy at McDonald's wasn't sane (smart, together, whatever) ! If he were, he may have opted for random bombings (in the style of the serial killer !). All the gun control laws in the world wouldn't have any effect on that ! You also stated that in the wild west a man lived by his gun. You're damned straight he did, that was how he ate ! I don't care what anybody thinks about our country, we are NOT "One Nation Under God", we are One Nation Under Whoever The Hell We Elect ! And that politician does not necessarily have to represent our best interests, he only has to make it look that way ! By the time good old brother Adolph was discovered to be the psycho he really was, it was to late for the German people at large to do anything about him ... They didn't have any guns to put him down with ! (Don't kid yourself into thinking that the German's were firm supporters of his theologies, it was certain death to speak out against him !) Hitler came to power because he was a smooth talker and fed on the idealls of the german people (much like any political convention), not because he felt that Jews should be wiped from the face of the Earth, that everyone should be 6 foot tall and blond, or that Germany should rule the World ! Had they known he even thought these things do you honestly think they would have let him rule their country ! The belief in "my country, right or wrong" is great, as long as it's sombody else that's having the right or wrong done to them. But, when it's us that are being wronged how will we defend ourselves ! Don't get me wrong, I think our country is the greatest place to live in the entire world, but the simple fact is that we are ruled by people that are subject to the same human inequities as everyone else. To turn your back on such an immense power, drop all forms of personal protection, and consider yourself safe, is just plain dumb ! Hopefully our government will never give us cause to have to defend ourselves, but what if............ (Vision's from the Orcrest Stone) Carl D.