Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site mit-athena.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!mit-athena!martillo From: martillo@mit-athena.ARPA (Joaquim Martillo) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Who is a Jew Message-ID: <250@mit-athena.ARPA> Date: Fri, 17-Aug-84 04:22:27 EDT Article-I.D.: mit-athe.250 Posted: Fri Aug 17 04:22:27 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 19-Aug-84 13:22:45 EDT References: <1438@ittvax.UUCP>, <223@fisher.UUCP>, <225@mit-athena.ARPA>, <584@rochester.UUCP> Organization: MIT, Project Athena, Cambridge, Ma. Lines: 29 In a jewish philosophy course I took in college I read a passage >by Maimonides which defined exactly who is a jew. Unfortunately my copy >of Maimonides excerps is in another city. Can someone quote the passage >(It is probably the most referenced section of his extremely referenced work >so I think it should be no problem finding it.) >FLAME: >Anyway I also suggest that >if Mr Martillo does not want to consider me to be in the same people as he >then he is no longer jewish because I am. I often violate talmudic law but >that is insufficient to exclude me from Judaism according to Jewish law. >(I think that even if I were to be excomunicated I would still be jewish >but am not sure.) The fact that Mr. Martillo is ashamed of most of the >Jews of the world (or at least a substantial percentage) should not act to >confuse people about important facts like just who is a Jew. Otherwise >I would not respond to his overemotional postings (In other words I have >to be fairly annoyed before I flame). If David Sher had bothered to read my article, he would have noted I was not offering a criterion for Jewishness but rather a criterion for the privilege of taking part within the Jewish community. I have Maltese citizenship. I neither speak Maltese nor do I no anything about Maltese culture. I have also never lived within the Maltese community. I would have a lot a nerve to try to tell true Maltese how to run Malta especially if on the basis of my limited experience I tried to claim there was no Maltese community. Joaquim Martillo