Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utcsrgv.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsrgv!dave From: dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (Dave Sherman) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Governments don't create wealth, eh? Message-ID: <5046@utcsrgv.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Aug-84 12:10:23 EDT Article-I.D.: utcsrgv.5046 Posted: Thu Aug 16 12:10:23 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 16-Aug-84 13:27:11 EDT References: <2032@utcsstat.UUCP> <1046@dciem.UUCP> <4212@utzoo.UUCP> <5034@utcsrgv.UUCP> <4216@utzoo.UUCP> <4221@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: dave@utcsrgv.UUCP (& Sherman) Organization: The Law Society of Upper Canada, Toronto Lines: 29 In article <4221@utzoo.UUCP> laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) writes: ~| From Dave Sherman: ~| ~| Didn't you get some help from government in the form of ~| education? In the form of government support to the university ~| which pays your salary to support its research? Put yourself on ~| a desert island, with no taxes, and you wouldn't have your job. ~| ~| Wonderful. Henry is talking about the morality of stealing, and Dave ~| thinks that he should feel that stealing is wonderful because it benefits ~| Henry. Everything is great as long as some other shmuck is getting ~| ripped off and you are getting the benefit, eh? ~| My point is that we *all* benefit from the taxes collected, in various ways. Different things help different people, in varying amounts. Pretty well all of us get medicare (costs me $1,000 per year for our family, which is a good deal), free education (if we want the public school system), OAS (we should live so long) and other benefits. Henry and others benefit from research grants to universities (which are made to advance research, not to advance Henry). Artists benefit from Canada Council grants. Small businessmen (under 5'4" :-) benefit from low tax rates. Sure, some people benefit more than others. But the objective of all of the grants and subsidies is (at least theoretically) to improve the overall quality of our society. Dave Sherman -- {allegra,cornell,decvax,ihnp4,linus,utzoo}!utcsrgv!dave