Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxz!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!hplabs!hp-pcd!hp-dcd!hpfclk!fritz From: fritz@hpfclk.UUCP (fritz) Newsgroups: net.singles Subject: Re: Re: "forward women" Message-ID: <91900002@hpfclk.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Aug-84 14:57:00 EDT Article-I.D.: hpfclk.91900002 Posted: Fri Aug 10 14:57:00 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 12-Aug-84 00:28:38 EDT References: <2942@alice.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 33 Nf-ID: #R:alice:-294200:hpfclk:91900002:000:1676 Nf-From: hpfclk!fritz Aug 7 10:57:00 1984 Right on, Anita. Sure, it was scary. Sure, you had doubts as to whether it was a smart thing to do. So do us guys! I am (according to women who know me well) a very sensitive, gentle person. I am a good listener. I am all those great things that a non-macho man is supposed to be. However, I am NOT 1) very brave about asking women out, nor 2) very good at detecting if a woman is interested in me! (I am certain that the two weaknesses reinforce each other, making for a vicious cycle.) I am also somewhat awkward/uncomfortable in social situation with a new MOTOS. This makes it fairly traumatic for me to initiate a relationship, as I will often try to pursue someone *I'm* interested in, but who isn't interested in me. (In high school, my favorite Charlie Brown quote was: "It's hard on a face when it gets laughed in!") As a result, I am sure I have missed out on satisfying relationships because I didn't know a lady would be interested, and thus chickened out. Stupid? You bet! But that's the way it's been. I'm working on it, but still have a long way to go. Luckily for me, there have been several nice women who took the initiative and asked *me* out. My two most significant relationships resulted from the woman initially asking me, or from the woman actively chasing me after I asked her out once or twice. While it can be a little unnerving, it is extremely flattering -- and will certainly get the man's attention. So, ladies, give it a try. Any male who is turned off by a forthright woman probably has other outdated attitudes, and you wouldn't want to get serious about him anyway, right? :-> Gary Fritz {ihnp4,hplabs}!hpfcla!fritz