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Subject: Re: makeup
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Subject: Re: makeup
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>	If, as Scott Anderson claims, makeup is:
>	     1.  part of the business/professional dress code
>	     2.  fun to use
>	     3.  a tool for improving one's appearance and thus
>		one's self-confidence
>	I think the obvious question is:
>	WHY DON'T MORE MEN WEAR MAKEUP ???????

Well, for one thing it's kind of messy with all that facial hair.  And yes,
the facial hair is important to us.  Read the Biblical account of Samson.  Then
read some introductory psych text.  Look for ``castration fear''.

I think that if I wore makeup, I would be saying ``Hey world, I'm now going to
be a product of my art and a follower of fashion.''  This would just blow the
living hell out of my self-confidence -- another thing to be judged on, another
set of expectations that I don't understand to live up to -- and with fashion
constantly changing ... well, I can't even remember my age.  (my birthday, yes.
It doesn't change.  But my age changes by itself every dozen months or so! ;-{)

You can tell I suffer from problems with self-confidence, or the lack thereof,
and I certainly don't have a double-plus-good-bellyfeel of how to relate to
others.  I think that some of their expectations are pretty bizzare.  And they
think that some of mine are.

But makeup can be a handicap.  Where in the sam hill am I going to find the
time to fuss with the crap.  And as fragile as beauty is, makeup is even more
fragile.  Besides, no makeup can replace a deeply felt smile, and no makeup
can cover a scowl.  So why bother?  As one who needs to learn how to care about
others, it seems that we ought to be more concerned with caring about them and
less with caring about what they think of us.
-- 

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