Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 (Tek) 9/26/83; site tekecs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!hplabs!tektronix!orca!tekecs!jeffw From: jeffw@tekecs.UUCP (Jeff Winslow) Newsgroups: net.music.classical Subject: Example of tonality in Schoenberg Message-ID: <3940@tekecs.UUCP> Date: Wed, 1-Aug-84 11:07:30 EDT Article-I.D.: tekecs.3940 Posted: Wed Aug 1 11:07:30 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 4-Aug-84 00:22:32 EDT Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR Lines: 15 An excellent example of tonality (both by my definition and Rosen's) in a 12-tone work is "Ode to Napoleon", written by Schoenberg in the 40's. Give it a listen! I don't think Schoenberg deliberately eschewed harmonic motion (which is what Rich seems to mean by tonality - I don't agree, but what else is new?). Certainly the 12-tone music which I prefer does not. But you have to remember that Schoenberg was a violinist by training (not a pianist, as most recent composers have been). This is an indicator, at least, that probably he just liked multi-linear textures better then harmonic ones. Apropos to this, get out Schoenberg's Op. 1 and have a look. It's a pair of songs with piano. You can tell it wasn't written by a pianist! Jeff Winslow