Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!ihnp4!zehntel!dual!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-akov68!boyajian From: boyajian@akov68.DEC (Jerry Boyajian) Newsgroups: net.comics Subject: re: NEW MUTANTS #21 Message-ID: <2931@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Sat, 28-Jul-84 13:34:20 EDT Article-I.D.: decwrl.2931 Posted: Sat Jul 28 13:34:20 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 30-Jul-84 00:50:51 EDT Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 67 > First, the artwork. It stunk. Ever since the NMs finished their > engagement with the hellions, the artwork has gone down, I can't remember > the issue number it changed style on, but it was 17 or 18 I think. Suddenly > they are in to shadows and sketch work, not the finished look.... > > The story was not much better, although I daresay good artwork would > have made it more palatable. Nothing really seemed to hang together, much > of the story was disjointed.... > > I have many more complaints, such as the new way of drawing Dani and > Illyana so they are no longer recognizable. The slumber party could have > been kept in better control, or better still dropped entirely as it really > didn't add anything at all. The demon sitting on Illyana's head during the > sceance was not a good idea, I don't think it should have been used at all. > > Andrew Garrett >> I completely disagree. NM#21 was one of the better episodes I have >> seen. The artwork is 150% better than that in the Buscema-ridden >> "New Rome" series. True, it is very stylistic, and the subdued inks >> can look muddy at times, but it is also the most creative and interesting >> way of telling a story that I've seen from Marvel since Shooter lost his >> sense of design. >> >> By the way. That was a DRAGON on Ilyana's head, not a demon. >> >> Hutch Well, I think I'm kind of in-between these two extremes. Like Hutch, I think that Bill Sienkiewicz's style is fascinating and very creative. HOWEVER, I don't think that the style suits the Newties; they need a much more straightforward art style. Given my druthers, I'd switch Sienkiewicz to THE MICRONAUTS and Kelly Jones to THE NEW MUTANTS. Part of the problem I have with the style is that the various figures seem too indistinct. I'd probably like it better if there was a strong inker on the book. As far as the Sal Buscema art that was previously in the book goes, I must con- fess that while I'm not a Sal fan, I thought that his work on the Newties was reasonably good, mostly do to the inking efforts of Tom Mandrake. I think the best issues, however, were around #5-6 with McLeod inking Buscema. On the other hand, to swing back to Hutch's side, I rather like the way Danielle and Illyana are drawn. And Hutch is correct, Andrew, that's a *dragon*, not a demon. Whatsamatter, didn't you recognize Lockheed? Or haven't you been follow- ing THE X-MEN? > ... Last, and most important, does anyone > know if Marvel is getting a new illustrator for this title. Well, Andrew, from what I understand, Sienkiewicz was originally signed on to do only six issues. After he got started, though, he was enjoying himself, so he'll be doing more than six issues, though how many more is not certain. >> And the Warlock joined the Newties because IT is a mutant itself. >> True, not the same species as the rest of them, but then Nightcrawler >> is not the same species as the rest of the Xmen. (Boy will that come as a >> shock when he finally learns about it!) Ah, Hutch, did I miss something, or do you know something that I don't? If the former, could you mail me a reference? If the latter, could you tell me what you know about it and where you found out? Don't worry about spoilers; they don't bother me at all. --- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, Maynard, MA) UUCP: {decvax|ihnp4|allegra|ucbvax|...}!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-akov68!boyajian ARPA: boyajian%akov68.DEC@DECWRL.ARPA