Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site proper.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!intelca!proper!gam From: gam@proper.UUCP (Gordon Moffett) Newsgroups: net.suicide Subject: Re: Male suicide Message-ID: <974@proper.UUCP> Date: Sun, 12-Feb-84 00:08:32 EST Article-I.D.: proper.974 Posted: Sun Feb 12 00:08:32 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Feb-84 23:28:05 EST References: <4599@rochester.UUCP>, <3669@gatech.UUCP> Organization: Proper UNIX, San Leandro, CA Lines: 20 > From: spaf@gatech.UUCP (Gene Spafford) > Organization: Georgia Tech School of ICS, Atlanta > Botched suicides are cries for help. They signal that the person > involved feels they have lost control and they need someone outside to > help set their lives aright. That is one reason why (in our society) > men have a much higher successful suicide rate than women -- it is > ingrained in the modern American male not to need help with his life > and so he doesn't cry out for help. Besides, a male ego suffering from > feelings of inadequacy certainly does not want to fail in this last, > final act. Interestingly, while males attempt suicide less often than females, they are more successful at it. One reason maybe that as they are success-driven then failure to succede at suicide (that is, surviving the attempt) would be intolerably humiliating. -- Gordon A. Moffett { allegra, decvax!decwrl } !amd70!proper hplabs!intelca!proper!gam