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From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.religion
Subject: Re: More unfinished business
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Date: Fri, 3-Feb-84 17:52:29 EST
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C'mon, give me a break, Larry!!  For the hundred-and-fiftieth time, there
is NOTHING (repeat NOTHING) illogical in Tim's saying:

1.  The god described in the bible is a pig (or some such epithet).

2.  If the bible is true, and this god does indeed exist as described,
	he is much more worthy of repugnance than of worship. [FOLLOWED BY
	SUBSTANTIATION]

3.  However, I do not believe the bible to be true.  I either believe that
	if there is a god it is of a different form than that described in the
	bible, or that there is no god at all. [FOLLOWED POSSIBLY BY
	SHOWING FLAWS IN BIBLICAL WRITINGS TO SUBSTANTIATE BELIEF THAT THE
	BIBLE IS NOT TRUE]

4.  Those self-righteous enough to believe that the "word" described in the
	bible is the "truth" and the only way are misguided.  Those who
	would look down upon those who do not are contemptible (despite their
	words about "god loves you anyway though you do not see the truth"
	and "you will see the truth in time").  Those who would impose this
	belief structure on others who do not adhere to it ("for their own
	good and the good of society" usually means "to increase my/our
	power") are dangerous. [THUS THOSE WHO CONDEMN "RELIGIONISTS"
	(autocratic ones) AND DENY THE TRUTHFULNESS OF THEIR HOLY WRITINGS ARE
	CONDEMNING THEIR SELF-RIGHTEOUS AND SELF-CENTERED ACTIONS, AND
	POSSIBLY ARE SAYING THAT THE VERY NATURE OF SUCH SOCIETAL-ORGANIZING
	SYSTEMS LEADS TO CORRUPTED ABSOLUTE POWER.  SUCH A PERSON COULD ALSO
	SAY THAT IF THE HOLY WRITING *ARE* TRUE, THE GOD THEY DEPICT IS NOT
	WORTHY OF WORSHIP, WITHOUT BEING "ILLOGICAL".]

I took the logical flow further than I intended and got a little "preachy"
there (no pun intended), but...  could you please show me where the
illogic is??
-- 
Pardon me for breathing...
	Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr