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From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP (Rich Rosen)
Newsgroups: net.news.group
Subject: Re: Proposal for net.religion.jewish
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Date: Mon, 6-Feb-84 13:03:20 EST
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Posted: Mon Feb  6 13:03:20 1984
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For god's sake, no!!!!! ["Did he really just say that?" -ED.]  I feel just
as strongly about this as I do about net.music.jewsharp ["Just ignore him
when he does that." -ED.]  Seriously, here we go again with the same
arguments for subgroups, all of which rarely hold water.

---The current parent newsgroup doesn't seem to have the type of articles on
	the subjects we're interested in

Do they fit the intended charter of the newsgroup??  THEN SUBMIT SOME
ARTICLES ON THE SUBJECTS!!!!  The fact that the current state of the newsgroup
consists of Larry flaming at Laura flaming at David flaming at me flaming at
Gary flaming at Tim flaming at Byron flaming at Ubizmo foaming at the mouth
shouldn't matter.  A newsgroup is exactly what YOU make of it---nothing more,
nothing less.  If you want to see articles on a given subject that belongs in
a given newsgroup, then post some!

---The topics we would be talking about are not of general interest, and/or
	we are not interested in the bulk of the articles in the parent group

In the second case, you've got an 'n' key, and of course the percentage of
articles on subjects that you are interested in is your own fault:  if it
is 0% it is because YOU didn't submit any.  In the first case, we are dealing
again with the same type of isolationism and elitism as one finds in the
proponents of net.music.themes-from-tv-game-shows.

---What's wrong with having net.religion.jewish, net.religion.christian,
	net.religion.islam, net.religion.ubizmo, ...

And how about net.religion.christian.protestant?  net.religion.christian.pro-
testant.fundamentalist?  net.religion.judaism.orthodox.lubavitcher?
net.religion.islam.shiite?  This is extremely divisive and unproductive.
It will eventually bring us to the point where all newsgroups will be of the
form net.site-id.user-id, where the contents of a newsgroup are those things
of interest only to a given user, where he/she can post articles, reply to
him/herself, and flame at him/herself.

There have indeed already been articles on some of the subjects suggested.
So what is the problem?
-- 
Pardon me for breathing...
	Rich Rosen    pyuxn!rlr