Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxn.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!floyd!harpo!eagle!mhuxl!mhuxm!pyuxww!pyuxn!rlr From: rlr@pyuxn.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news.group,net.music Subject: Re: net.music should be split Message-ID: <449@pyuxn.UUCP> Date: Tue, 7-Feb-84 12:12:42 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxn.449 Posted: Tue Feb 7 12:12:42 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Feb-84 22:26:48 EST References: <349@houxa.UUCP> Organization: Central Services Org., Piscataway N.J. Lines: 36 Let's take a close look at some of the reasons subgroups have been formed in the past. As Orlando has pointed out, there are a few groups with subgroups out there. Many times it was done for equally bogus reasons as the proposed net.religion and net.music splittings. In most of the cases where the subgrouping was reasonable, the subgroup served to isolate a particular *topic*, rather than a particular *taste*. For instance, net.jokes.d is for discussion of jokes rather than jokes themselves. It would be a different matter if someone suggested net.jokes.lightbulb, net.jokes.helenkeller, net.jokes.knockknock, net.jokes.licenseplates&errormsgs, etc. It's one thing to separate net.games from net.games.video, but quite another to create net.movies AND net.movies.color, net.movies.b&w, net.movies.3d, etc. The problem is not that there is not enough interest in a given topic, such as classical music (there obviously is), but that there's no reason not to submit such articles to net.music. I really don't like the idea of newsgroups to begin with, but if we're going to have them it's counterproductive to have one for every person's individual taste, which is what we'd be approaching. I prefer the concept of keywords, but the netnews stands now it is difficult to control their usage. What's really needed is a way for people to look at a list of articles available to them in a given newsgroup and 'x' off the ones they don't want to read by subject (perhaps through vnews or notes). What it boils down to is this---I hear people saying "There's too much noise (??) in xxx newsgroup, and we would like to see a separate group for articles on the yyy type of xxx, so let's make a subgroup". If you don't like the way a newsgroup "looks" and you'd like to see more articles on your subject of interest within the newsgroup topic, THEN SUBMIT SOME!!!! This sounds a lot like people who complain about the government but don't vote!! -- Pardon me for breathing... Rich Rosen pyuxn!rlr