Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!harpo!seismo!rochester!ritcv!jeh From: jeh@ritcv.UUCP (James E Heliotis) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple,net.lang.st80 Subject: MAC graphics controllable in terminal emulation? Message-ID: <923@ritcv.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Feb-84 11:41:45 EST Article-I.D.: ritcv.923 Posted: Fri Feb 10 11:41:45 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 11-Feb-84 09:16:45 EST Lines: 30 You know, I was thinking. If you want to try to implement a Smalltalk system on your mini or mainframe computer, but you don't have good graphics terminals, you're in big trouble. Either you fake it on non- graphically oriented terminals, and the system crawls along (which I suspect it might do anyway), or you spend a big effort ripping out all the window stuff, graphics, and mouse junk out of the Smalltalk environment you bought from Xerox, and add in your own character output routines (I think Smalltalk paints characters), and end up with something not nearly as useful. So then, I thought, might a MacIntosh (or perhaps a Lisa) have its terminal emulation software set up so that the full desktop environment is controllable from the outside? I suspect that even if the answer is 'yes', there will be problems, for example: >From what I have seen, I suspect the MAC implements menus and their interaction with the mouse in ROM. However, I suspect that there is a Smalltalk class 'menu' which is somehow implemented (as a subclass?) in terms of the class 'window', and that the mouse is somehow automatically monitored by those objects as well. So, I am sure that the match would not be perfect. But can anyone enlighten me on my original question? Jim Heliotis {allegra,seismo}!rochester!ritcv!jeh rocksvax!ritcv!jeh ritcv!jeh@Rochester