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From: wbpesch@ihuxp.UUCP (Walt Pesch)
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Subject: Re: BIG guns
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Date: Wed, 15-Feb-84 14:42:45 EST
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Posted: Wed Feb 15 14:42:45 1984
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>  From: woods@hao.UUCP (Greg Woods)
>  
>     The whole goddamn THING is bad news. What the hell are *we* doing there?
>  I have yet to hear any rational explanation for that. Ronnie and his 
>  supporters all base their arguments on the fact that what we are doing
>  is the best we can do to save face in the current situation. Sound
>  familiar? It does to me. It's the same argument Nixon gave when pulling
>  out of Vietnam. Sure, it makes and made sense at the time. But as Gary
>  Hart recently said, "It underscores the point that we should never have
>  gone in there in the first place". Ronnie is making a pathetic attempt
>  to snatch victory from the rapidly closing jaws of defeat. Let's face it,
>  the Lebaonon situation is another debacle for the US. Why do you think
>  the Isrealis got out when they did? Why not let the US do their dirty
>  work for them? What the hell,  most of the rest of our allies do, and our 
>  leaders are dumb enough to let them get away with it!

FALME ON:

What type of a limp-wristed pansy are you?  Are all your friends
members of the Man-Boy Buggering Brotherhood?  What are we doing there?
I'll tell.  We, along with our allies, are trying to prevent another
radical state from being created in the Middle East.  

I don't like flaming, but I am really getting sick of the rhetoric
that "Ooooh, the nasty, nasty Ray-gun will ,
so we have to get him out of office."  You people want to make me
barf.  You take the rhetoric that is handed down from the democrats,
and repeat it like the morons that you are.  Why don't you look at the
facts, or are the only facts that you get from "That's Incredible".
You can actual talk about the economy sliding due to Reagonomics.  I
don't see how...the market is the strongest its been for years, and
all the business indcators indicate good times ahead.  And, for your
pet bitch, yes, unemployment is also going down.

AND NOW MORE RATIONALLY BACK TO THE SUBJECT:

We first tried to prop up the legitamate government of the brother of the 
President of Lebanon, who was assassinated by being shot in the head by 
the same radical terrorists and religous fanatics that you are supporting.
This was done in conjunction with other nations.  However, this did
not work.  Even I, a firm supporter of our presence in Lebanon in the
Multi-National Peace Keeping Force, will admit that things did not
work in Lebanon.  Therefor, it will aid the process of trying to form
a legitamate government to get the Multi-National Peace Keeping Force
out of the direct conflict.  This does not mean that we are bowing out
of Labanon in the same way that we bowed out of Viet Nam, in shame.
We are still attempting to get a working peace and a legitamate,
survivable government in Lebanon.  This is by stopping the terrorist
and foriegn agitators and combat troops from hindering the formation
of the new government.  

AND BACK TO FLAMING:

It would be really nice if we could have peace and harmony and good
will to all men, but that dream is not reality.  But obviously some of
you morons out there are asleep and dreaming.  WAKE UP!!!!!



                            "Ourya Otherma Eraswa Ombatca Ootsba"
                               (issued under a Dem. Administration)

                                          Walt Pesch
                                   AT&T Technologues, Inc.
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