Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watarts!cdanderson From: cdanderson@watarts.UUCP Newsgroups: net.politics Subject: Re: Trotsky, Stalin, Socialism Message-ID: <2110@watarts.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Feb-84 02:14:38 EST Article-I.D.: watarts.2110 Posted: Thu Feb 23 02:14:38 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Feb-84 00:21:34 EST References: mit-eddi.1297 Lines: 19 There is a very real problem with both state socialism and state (which unmitigated private leads to) capitalism. In socio-economic structures where a class is established to "govern", these people soon become removed from the "proletariat" and begin to rule according to self- interest. As a class distinction has been established, it means that such benefits for the ruling class will be made at the expense of others (in a zero-sum game). As such, only in a decentralized system is it possible for the majority to rule (i.e. There's no government, like NO government!). Bye-the-way, George Orwell would likely have been greatly upset by today's U.S.A. as well as the U.S.S.R., he was an Anarchist (read Homage To Catalonia, Penguin Books). Remember, the Anarchists have been shot at by both State-ist systems. In Red & Black, Cameron Anderson watarts!cdanderson