Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ccieng6.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!ccieng6!rand From: rand@ccieng6.UUCP Newsgroups: net.flame Subject: Re:LIBNETTERS READ Message-ID: <124@ccieng6.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Feb-84 12:59:49 EST Article-I.D.: ccieng6.124 Posted: Thu Feb 16 12:59:49 1984 Date-Received: Sat, 18-Feb-84 03:54:54 EST Organization: Computer Consoles Inc., Rochester, NY Lines: 22 Quoted from uiucdcs!renner Feb 14, 1984 > Another thing we libertarians believe in is the right to defend ourselves. > Maybe even to defend some other people, if we like them and if they ask for > help. I don't need a law to protect me against slavery. I just need my > .357 Magnum and a few friends who feel the same way. And what happens when someone with more friends and say a machine gun comes along? You get tank and some more friends, right? Before you know it you will have a few very large groups of "friends" in the world. These groups will have internal conflict and a lot of jockeying for power within them. Lets call these nations. In a short time they will have enough weapons, lets call them atomic bombs, to wipe everything out, or at least make a very big mess. Laws are just a means of binding societies together. When there isn't enough courtesy in some people to fill a thimble you need something. True some laws are rather crazy, but if you look at the people that made them you may see why. Rand A. Hoven ...!seismo!rochester!ritcv!ccieng5!ccieng6!rand