Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!inuxc!pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcewan From: mcewan@uiucdcs.UUCP (mcewan ) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: Child molestation and pornography - (nf) Message-ID: <5704@uiucdcs.UUCP> Date: Fri, 17-Feb-84 03:29:25 EST Article-I.D.: uiucdcs.5704 Posted: Fri Feb 17 03:29:25 1984 Date-Received: Mon, 20-Feb-84 06:53:43 EST Lines: 55 #R:dciem:-67600:uiucdcs:31600034:000:1901 uiucdcs!mcewan Feb 17 00:37:00 1984 A Definition: Pornography is that which depicts people enjoying pain and mistreatment. Also, that which celebrates violence as a valid form of sexuality. ------------- SARCASM A Definition: A feminist is a lesbian who violently hates men. Feminists enjoy kidnaping, torturing and killing men. Studies have conclusively proven that feminism rots the moral fiber of our nation, turns our children into perverts and causes tooth decay. Can anyone question the wisdom of burning all feminists at the stake? MSACRAS I really don't think that redefining words to make your case is a legitimate debating tactic. If you don't know the meaning of the word pornography, LOOK IT UP! If you want to flame about movies that feature violence against women, then say "movies that feature violence against women" or find or define a word that means the same thing. If you want to flame against pornography, then talk about PORNOGRAPHY. The usual feminist anti-pornography argument seems to go as follows: 1) Define pornography as above. 2) Point to study concluding that this kind of pornography turns men into homocidal rapists. 3) Point to non-violent but (by normal definition) porographic movie and shout LOOK! PORNOGRAPHY! EVIL! DESTROY! Personally, I think such people are merely trying to justify an irrational belief with pseudo-rational arguments. I think they should join the Moral Majority and move their flames to net.religion. If, one the other hand, people want to talk rationally about depictions of violence against women or pornography, I'm willing to listen. Scott McEwan pur-ee!uiucdcs!mcewan P.S. I don't mind flames, but before you flame, please re-read this note and make sure that you understand what I'm trying to say. Except for the sarcasm block, I believe I used the correct English definitions for all the words.