Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site houxu.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!houxu!welsch From: welsch@houxu.UUCP (Larry Welsch) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Pornography Message-ID: <313@houxu.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Feb-84 13:10:10 EST Article-I.D.: houxu.313 Posted: Thu Feb 16 13:10:10 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Feb-84 03:25:30 EST Organization: Bell Labs, Holmdel NJ Lines: 23 (to the eater of first lines) Proposed definition of pornography. Pornography is that which depicts people enjoying pain and mistreatment. Also, that which celebrates violence as a valid form of sexuality. I would contend by this definition all of the James Bond novels by Ian Flemming are pornographic. Does anyone who has read the novels by Flemming care to disagree? Of course in the novels the sadism is primarily directed at men, but their ability to take and give pain is what make the men sexual. For those who haven't read Ian Flemming, but have seen the Hollywood movies, I suggest you read the books before commenting. Some of scenes depicted in the books make the Story of O seem like child's play. Larry Welsch houxu!welsch