Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihu1g.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxl!houxm!ihnp4!ihu1g!smann From: smann@ihu1g.UUCP (Sherry Mann) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: About net.men - (nf) Message-ID: <206@ihu1g.UUCP> Date: Thu, 16-Feb-84 10:08:05 EST Article-I.D.: ihu1g.206 Posted: Thu Feb 16 10:08:05 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 17-Feb-84 03:07:37 EST References: <166@iuvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 30 I have no strong feelings one way or the other about the creation of net.men except those feelings I have about the creation of new news groups - which is that if enough people feel the need (or desire) for a new news group, by all means create it. I think the the wishes of the people who wish a new news group should outweigh the feelings of those who are against it. As to net.men, I am for it IF people feel the need for it. My personal opinion is that if it would keep discussions in net.women from turning into discussions about men (as the circumcision discussion did) more power to it. On another point, I am not seeking female dominance, but I don't agree that feminism might more properly be called humanism. One of potential side effects of feminism hopefully will be an improvement in the human condition and feminism can and does positively affect the lives of men and women. However to me, and I'm sure to most women who think of themselves as feminists to whatever degree, feminism is concerned with the improvement of the condition of women. Until women are as equal as men, I don't want to see feminism sidetracked by "humanism", better education for children, childcare, more people-oriented principles of management, or anything less than the improvement of the condition of women. Sherry Mann AT&T-BL, Naperville, IL ihu1g!smann