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Subject: [Ron Natalie:  Re: Byte finally showed up]
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Date: Fri, 27-Jan-84 09:33:55 EST
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From:     Ron Natalie 
To:       ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid
cc:       young@uci-750a, ciaraldi@rochester, info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, jpm@bnl, 
          jpm@brl
Subject:  Re:  Byte finally showed up

Has anyone received their February Byte yet?

  o o
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From:     Ron Natalie 
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cc:       young@uci-750a, ciaraldi@rochester, info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, jpm@bnl, 
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Subject:  Re:  Byte finally showed up

Has anyone received their February Byte yet?

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Date: 26-Jan-84 15:09:39-EST
From: jpm@bnl
Subject: Late BYTE
To: Pourne@mit-mc, Info-Micro@brl

Since I was the one who started all this I feel I should be
the one to end it. I plan to write a letter of complaint to
Byte. Anybody else who has been getting theirs late should
do the same. Lets not fill the net with any more discussion
on the subject.

John McNamee		jpm@Bnl.Arpa

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Date: Thu 26 Jan 84 16:55:28-EST
From: Thomas S. Wanuga 
Subject: BYTE Delay
To: info-micro@BRL.ARPA

My roommate got his copy of the latest Newsweek in yesterday's mail.
Since there seems to be so much interest, would someone like to
organinze an INFO-MAGAZINE?
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Date: 26 Jan 84 18:14:22 EST (Thu)
From: Mike Ciaraldi 
Subject: Re:  Byte finally showed up
To: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid.ARPA, ron@brl-vgr.ARPA
Cc: info-cpm@brl.ARPA, info-micro@brl.ARPA, jpm@bnl.ARPA, jpm@brl.ARPA, 
    young@uci-750a.ARPA

1) I am happy to hear that at least someone gets his Byte in a timely fashion.
This has been bugging me for years, less so now that I get so many
magazines I can't read them all anyway.
About four years ago, I complained to Carl Helmers when he was in town.
He didn't seem very interseted, and just said, "We send them to the
Post Office",  ask them.
I called the Byte subscription number, and they said,
"We send them to the POst Office and the newsstands the same day,
so it must be the mail's fault."
I asked the Post Office, and they said it probably did not take 
two weeks to get from NH to NY every month.
2) Cancelling our subscriptions is somewhat like cutting
off noses to spite faces.


3) So, I suggest, we take a poll on when the, say February issue
shows up, then send the results to Byte, as J. Pournelle suggested.
Let's all be on the lookout for newsstand and subscription
copies. Has February Byte reached anyone yet?
What's on the cover?

Mike Ciaraldi,
ciaraldi@rochester

P.S. Every single person need not sennd mail. Maybe it shoukld
be tht the first one to see a newsstand copy in his or her
city should post, likewise the first sub,
then anyone who gets a sub copy more than a day or two later
could follow up with a message.
Hopefully, doing this ONCE will generate some statistics
without overloading the network.

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Date: 26 Jan 84 18:14:22 EST (Thu)
From: Mike Ciaraldi 
Subject: Re:  Byte finally showed up
To: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid.ARPA, ron@brl-vgr.ARPA
Cc: info-cpm@brl.ARPA, info-micro@brl.ARPA, jpm@bnl.ARPA, jpm@brl.ARPA, 
    young@uci-750a.ARPA

1) I am happy to hear that at least someone gets his Byte in a timely fashion.
This has been bugging me for years, less so now that I get so many
magazines I can't read them all anyway.
About four years ago, I complained to Carl Helmers when he was in town.
He didn't seem very interseted, and just said, "We send them to the
Post Office",  ask them.
I called the Byte subscription number, and they said,
"We send them to the POst Office and the newsstands the same day,
so it must be the mail's fault."
I asked the Post Office, and they said it probably did not take 
two weeks to get from NH to NY every month.
2) Cancelling our subscriptions is somewhat like cutting
off noses to spite faces.


3) So, I suggest, we take a poll on when the, say February issue
shows up, then send the results to Byte, as J. Pournelle suggested.
Let's all be on the lookout for newsstand and subscription
copies. Has February Byte reached anyone yet?
What's on the cover?

Mike Ciaraldi,
ciaraldi@rochester

P.S. Every single person need not sennd mail. Maybe it shoukld
be tht the first one to see a newsstand copy in his or her
city should post, likewise the first sub,
then anyone who gets a sub copy more than a day or two later
could follow up with a message.
Hopefully, doing this ONCE will generate some statistics
without overloading the network.

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Date: 27 January 1984 03:19 EST
From: Jerry E. Pournelle 
Subject:  Byte finally showed up
To: ciaraldi@rochester
cc: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid, info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, jpm@brl, jpm@bnl, 
    young@uci-750a, ron@brl-vgr
In-reply-to: Msg of 26 Jan 84 18:14:22 EST (Thu) from Mike Ciaraldi 

1> I have Feb BYTE sent to me FEDEX from teh printer; the
editorial people got theirs also same way same time.
2. They should NOW be in Post Office.  Understand: the darned
things are so big that only a couple of printers in the country
can hanle them. I believe the printer we now use does also Sears
roebuck catalogs.
3. St atistcs posted on this net will do NO good.  LETTERS to
the editorial office -- to me for that matter -- will POSSIBLY
get some attention, possibly not.
4. Cancelling subscription seems drastic.  Who does better on
getting out that much data so regularly?


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Date: 27 Jan 1984 0017-PST
From: Chuck McManis 
Subject: Late Bytes
To: info-micro@brl


Of course last I heard Byte had an account at Mit-Mc, so why not
redirect all current flaming on directly. Arm chair complainers
UNITE!
				--Chuck

P.S. Thats BYTE@MIT-MC for you arpa people Some!weird!address!at!ucb-vax!and!then!on!to!the!arpanet for usenet people :->

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From: Jerry E. Pournelle 
Subject:  Byte finally showed up
To: ciaraldi@rochester
cc: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid, info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, jpm@brl, jpm@bnl, 
    young@uci-750a, ron@brl-vgr
In-reply-to: Msg of 26 Jan 84 18:14:22 EST (Thu) from Mike Ciaraldi 

1> I have Feb BYTE sent to me FEDEX from teh printer; the
editorial people got theirs also same way same time.
2. They should NOW be in Post Office.  Understand: the darned
things are so big that only a couple of printers in the country
can hanle them. I believe the printer we now use does also Sears
roebuck catalogs.
3. St atistcs posted on this net will do NO good.  LETTERS to
the editorial office -- to me for that matter -- will POSSIBLY
get some attention, possibly not.
4. Cancelling subscription seems drastic.  Who does better on
getting out that much data so regularly?


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Date: 27 Jan 84 0410 EST (Friday)
From: George.Wood@cmu-cs-a
To: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid, ciaraldi@rochester
Subject: Re: Byte finally showed up
CC: info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, POURNE@mit-mc
In-Reply-To: <[USC-ISID]26-Jan-84 04:00:47.ABN.ISCAMS>
Message-Id: <27Jan84.041012.GW90@CMU-CS-A>

Sorry; but I can't stand it either. It's January 26th and I STILL don't
have my January BYTE. JEP says the February issues have left the printers.

I think he missed the point about statistics: use the net for gathering
and reporting them to net users, and uSnail for reporting final results
to Byte, the post office, etc. But perhaps someone would volunteer to
accept all reports instead of clogging the net bb's, and compile a 
report at the end of the month.
					George

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From: George.Wood@cmu-cs-a
To: ABN.ISCAMS@usc-isid, ciaraldi@rochester
Subject: Re: Byte finally showed up
CC: info-cpm@brl, info-micro@brl, POURNE@mit-mc
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Message-Id: <27Jan84.041012.GW90@CMU-CS-A>

Sorry; but I can't stand it either. It's January 26th and I STILL don't
have my January BYTE. JEP says the February issues have left the printers.

I think he missed the point about statistics: use the net for gathering
and reporting them to net users, and uSnail for reporting final results
to Byte, the post office, etc. But perhaps someone would volunteer to
accept all reports instead of clogging the net bb's, and compile a 
report at the end of the month.
					George

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