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Subject: Re: emacs and 4.2
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Date: Sat, 11-Feb-84 18:34:13 EST
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Posted: Sat Feb 11 18:34:13 1984
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	From:  David Chase 
	
	On a different subject, is anyone else annoyed at the number of
	cmu-specific hacks in the maclib?  As distributed, "man" and
	"lisp" fail, for lack of some pathname with a cmu in it, and
	for lack of cmulisp.

Yeah I know what you mean.  We just installed Unipress Emacs, and I
just got finished doing what I do whenever I receive a new Mlisp package
or maclib; I diff against our version and integrate the two.  This time
I kept a simple log detailing what each package is, whether its local
or not, and whether I had to do any fixing.  I want to forward this
stuff to Unipress since I've got a lot of fixes and extensions to
distributed packages, and also packages that aren't in the standard
distribution at all.  Has anyone had any contact with Unipress about
such a thing?  I was a little miffed about them since some of that
packages had minor bugs that stops them from being run, and some from
even being loaded successfully!!!  Don't they check that stuff before
distributing it to paying customers?

About the CMU specific things;  that doesn't bother me that much since
I usually have to change pathnames anyway to local paths, and we run
regular franz and not CMUlisp.  But that stuff should be un-CMU-ized
by Unipress be distribution.  In fact, one thing that came with the
distribution was a package called 'whist.ml' that had the follwing
comment in the top of it.

;	This package implements the whist function to write
;	history messages (just the same as whist on Unix).

Now I don't know about your system, but we don't have a 'whist' on our
4.1bsd system, and in fact I have absolutely no idea about what it
does!!!  Oh well, what I've done with it is move it to our 'unused'
directory (for Mlisp files that are inapplicable, unintelligible,
ridiculous, superceded, or otherwise unused by our local populace).

After I get the LOG file mentioned above cleaned up, I'd like to
distribute it over this list and maybe get it filled out with any
new packages and modified versions of old packages out there.  Then
maybe we can have an organized way of finding out what packages there
are and trading them.  Some of these packages came with the Unipress
distribution which they are selling.  I was wondering what the story
is about redistributing those since you have to pay money for them.
The old packages aren't a problem, since they came with the free
version of Gosling's emacs.  Anyone know the story on this?
-- 

Bruce Israel

University of Maryland, Computer Science
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