Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unc.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!harpo!ulysses!unc!bch From: bch@unc.UUCP (Byron Howes ) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Omniscience vs. Free Will (again!) Message-ID: <6806@unc.UUCP> Date: Wed, 22-Feb-84 01:51:49 EST Article-I.D.: unc.6806 Posted: Wed Feb 22 01:51:49 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 23-Feb-84 01:34:12 EST References: <844@ssc-vax.UUCP> Organization: University of North Carolina Comp. Center Lines: 21 I think that David Norris has at least caught the drift of the omniscient G-d vs. free will argument if I read his last submission correctly: "God, being omniscient, knows that we are going to disobey the law of jurisprudence tomorrow and fall on our butt. It does not follow that He makes it happen, because watching someone do something is not the same as making them do it." This is, I think, more or less the point that various people have been trying to make. If the Deity is omniscient, then it knows what we are going to do today, tomorrow, or for eternity. It doesn't *matter* whether or not we are made to do it. To an all-knowing diety, the outcome and all outcomes are *known.* The human notion of "free will" is irrelevant in the face of that knowledge. -- "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" Byron Howes UNC - Chapel Hill ({decvax,akgua}!mcnc!unc!bch)