Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles - hp internal release 1.2; site hp-dcd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!floyd!harpo!seismo!hao!hplabs!hp-pcd!hp-dcd!donn From: donn@hp-dcd.UUCP Newsgroups: net.news Subject: Re: A Thought on Newsgroup Structure (lo Message-ID: <17800001@hp-dcd.UUCP> Date: Fri, 10-Feb-84 13:05:00 EST Article-I.D.: hp-dcd.17800001 Posted: Fri Feb 10 13:05:00 1984 Date-Received: Thu, 9-Feb-84 07:44:33 EST References: <884@druxt.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 26 Nf-ID: #R:druxt:-88400:hp-dcd:17800001:000:1350 Nf-From: hp-dcd!donn Feb 3 10:05:00 1984 I've been following the notes vs. news wars for a while, and I think maybe a clarification is in order. There are two, intimately related but distinct, versions of notes. There are the UI versions, directly done (and supported?) by Ray Essick. There is also the UCB "version" in the "contributed software" section. The UCB version is 99% the Essick version, but Ray Spickemier has fixed a few of the problems. It turns out that the problems are exactly those that are complained about a lot! He's added a "%" key for decription of rot13 jokes, and "|" and "^" (analoguous to s and S) for pipes. He's also cleaned up the notes creation and monitoring some. We had one site here that refused to run notes, but now wouldn't use anything else. The UCB version is based on UI 1.3, I'm told; I don't know much about UI 1.6 yet. We run notes only on all our HP built machines, and have no complaints. Orphaned responses are in general a symptom of news' occasional unreliability, not any problem of notes directly; you see the orphaned responses in reading news, it just isn't as visible that its an orphan. (How many times have you thought "I don't know what this is a respnse to". Usually one blames ones memory; with notes, you know that you aren't losing your mind, you havn't seen anything about it before!) Donn Terry hplabs!hp-dcd!donn