Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 exptools 1/6/84; site ihuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!security!genrad!grkermit!masscomp!clyde!burl!hou3c!hocda!houxm!ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck From: stanwyck@ihuxr.UUCP Newsgroups: net.auto Subject: Re: Seatbelt discussion -- new twist Message-ID: <871@ihuxr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Jan-84 11:43:17 EST Article-I.D.: ihuxr.871 Posted: Mon Jan 30 11:43:17 1984 Date-Received: Wed, 1-Feb-84 01:37:52 EST References: <93@whuxj.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL Lines: 42 Carl Blesch asked if there were any stats on what percentage of accidents gave better odds to non-wearers of seat blets than to wearers of seat belts. The only stats I've seen are probably 5-7 years out of date now. They suggested that 1/1000 or 1/10000 (I believe it was the former) of the time you are better off or even odds without a selt belt in an accident. This was based on studies of accident reports from many places. Sample size not mentioned, or at least not recalled. I beleive the source was either AAA or National Traffic Saftety Board (or some such name). Their point was that playing the odds was extremely chancy. I have also noticed what Carl mentioned about non-wearers always knowing someone who fared better because they were without a belt. Except that I have noticed that when asked for details, usually it is really that one of their friends knew a friend whose friend was in an accident and, no, they don't really know anything about the accident, and, no, they don't know what injuries the person id receive (if any), and, no, they aren't sure if they can think of any where you are better off out of a seatbelt....but their friend told them so it muxt be true! points: 1. it is not better to not wear a selt belt if you fall in a river. (getting tossed around the interior of the car is more likely to leave you unconscience or disabled than a seltbelt is to trap you. Usually you don't want out of a submerged car that fast anyway. 2. it is not better to be thrown from a car. If the windshield doesn't kill you, and scrapping along the ground at 55+ mph doesn't wipe all your skin off, then the car landing on you will probably put you out of your misery. Good luck, and fasten up so that the other guy doesn't have the privalige of attending your funderal instead of sitting there in court while you sue. -- ________ ( ) Don Stanwyck @( o o )@ 312-979-3062 ( || ) Cornet-367-3062 ( \__/ ) ihnp4!ihuxr!stanwyck (______) Bell Labs @ Naperville, IL