Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!watarts!cdanderson From: cdanderson@watarts.UUCP Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: same old topic: net.[wo]men (suggested guidelines) Message-ID: <2085@watarts.UUCP> Date: Mon, 30-Jan-84 03:31:02 EST Article-I.D.: watarts.2085 Posted: Mon Jan 30 03:31:02 1984 Date-Received: Sun, 5-Feb-84 10:25:18 EST References: watdaisy.6468 Lines: 30 This is really a further note of support for the introduction of something like net.men(.changing?). I would like to see such a group formed; not to debate the points of feminism but, instead, as a way for men (would we allow women to write?) to exchange info. about creating a non-sexist and heirarchical (for starters) society and the problems we are having in doing so. No, I am not in favour of having to defend my actions against men or testosterone-poisoned women |-) but, instead, would like to consider the need (to change) as a given. At this point, I would like to see input from women as it is they who have the best handle on the ways that a male-dominated world hurts them. However, I also think that some men know what it is that must be changed (at least in part) to aid women and to break out of the chains which we have trapped ourselves in. For example, I hate always having to be a paragon of strength (something even demanded by some feminists I have been involved with). ******************************** About net.women.only, it is not true that all men will or should be bored by talk of dysmenorrhea, tampons vs. pads etc. I for one have been able to pass on info. gained by talking with women and reading (eg. Our Bodies, Our Selves) about useful message techniques for dysmenhorrea, debate about Rely tampons, PMT, etc. If the women around me are happy, I will tend to be happy! Besides, should we "ghettoize" info. or make it the exclusive domain of one group. For example, should we leave all military decisions to the military? Hoping that one day we will all be net.people, C.D. Anderson