Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site eosp1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!princeton!eosp1!lincoln From: lincoln@eosp1.UUCP (Dick Lincoln) Newsgroups: net.sport.hoops Subject: Charging/Blocking Problem (Re: Officials Flame) Message-ID: <610@eosp1.UUCP> Date: Thu, 23-Feb-84 10:45:33 EST Article-I.D.: eosp1.610 Posted: Thu Feb 23 10:45:33 1984 Date-Received: Fri, 24-Feb-84 01:01:09 EST References: <220@hou2b.UUCP> <845@drufl.UUCP> Organization: Exxon Office Systems, Princeton, NJ Lines: 16 Why not make an "offensive" (no pun intended) charge just a turnover, as long as there is nothing terribly deliberate or vicious about it? ("vicious" charges would be technical fouls.) Losing the ball seems penalty enough. This removes some of the onus of a bad call by not placing a "charging" player's game longevity in jeopardy. The only problem I can see is the "scored but charged" play that occurs so frequently in college ball on layups. To solve this, simply go to the "pro" (I can hear the flames now!) concept of "continuation": if you charged during the act of a shot, *including* recovery of body control and/or court position after the shot, you didn't score - you turned it over. Fouls clearly after a shot are "dead ball" fouls and count as personals. Dick Lincoln - EOSC, Princeton, NJ {decvax!ittvax,allegra,princeton}!eosp1!lincoln