From: utzoo!decvax!harpo!ihnp4!ihuxr!lew Newsgroups: net.math Title: I am trying to comprehend Article-I.D.: ihuxr.321 Posted: Mon Feb 7 14:13:21 1983 Received: Wed Feb 9 02:02:07 1983 Reply-To: lew@ihuxr.UUCP (Lew Mammel, Jr.) First, let me apologize for my horrible mangling of the Continuum Hypothesis in a recent posting. Partly as a result of this, I sought to gain an elementary understanding of Axiomatic Set Theory. I am stuck on the "Axiom of Comprehension", and in particular, its relation to Russell's Paradox. Using "A" for "for all", "E" for "there exists", "<" for "is an element of", "^" for "and", and "<->" for "if and only if", Kunen states this axiom in "Set Theory, an Introduction to Independence Proofs" as the universal closure of: Ey Ax (x < y <-> x < z ^ phi) where phi is a formula NOT INVOLVING y. (Emphasis mine) Kunen then proceeds to use Russell's paradox to prove the nonexistence of the universal set. He first lets phi = x ~< x and then resorts to english description. I can't complete the proof without using y in phi. To complete my confusion, Monk in "Intro. to Set Theory" uses this axiom to prove the non-existence of "the set of all non-self-members" and then uses the same axiom to define the universal set! Monk uses "x is a set" in place of "x < z" in the axiom. Who out there comprehends Comprehension? As a footnote, Kunen uses an undefined notation in the "Replacement Scheme" axiom. He doesn't define "!" anywhere, but states the axiom: A (x < B) E !y phi(x,y) -> E Y A (x < B) E (y < Y) phi(x,y) Can anybody explain this? Lew Mammel, Jr. ihuxr!lew